Jeze3D.exe :win3_msdos: (@jezebelley3d@social.linux.pizza)
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I went back to #Windows for now you guys. I just can't. Every. Single. #Linux. Distro. has some kind of hardware issue. First it was the sound not adjusting with the GNOME volume slider. Then it was packages not being available in rpm or flatpak, and I'd have to spend forever finding a tutorial to compile from source. Then it was firefox having video stutter issues. Then I switch to Mint and I can't adjust screen brightness for no reason. Constant headaches. Windows just works.

all that and Linux SUCKS for laptop battery life. It halved my battery no matter the distro.

  • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
    29·
    6 months ago

    When you get around to a new laptop, look out for one that is Linux compatible. Unfortunately many hardware OEMs don’t take the time to provide drivers for Linux, and that causes problems.

      • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
        101·
        6 months ago

        That’s cool but probably unnecessary. The vast majority of hardware works fine.

        I definitely opted for an AMD GPU in my new gaming rig specifically to run Linux/ChimeraOS, and hopefully one day SteamOS.

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
          81·
          6 months ago

          OP is literally complaining about bad hardware support. The best way to avoid headaches is to stick to known supported hardware.

          • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
            5·
            6 months ago

            Yes but you can literally have “known supported hardware” without literally building a “ground up Linux machine”.

      • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
        6·
        6 months ago

        System76 seems to be well-rated for Linux support, even ones with NVIDIA in them, and Framework maintains a list of Linux distros they support.

        • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
          4·
          6 months ago

          That’s what I was thinking I’d grab in the future. I’ve read about System 76 a few times now.

          • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
            3·
            6 months ago

            Yeah they make their own distro (Pop! OS) and all their laptops ship with Linux pre-installed so they’re definitely a safe choice.

            I’ve always had good luck with Lenovos as well. I’ve had an NVIDIA and an AMD one and they’ve both run really well with Linux.

      • Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        Dell laptops are pretty good for Linux compatibility. To save on price I would recommend browsing dell outlet. It’s an official dell store for selling “reconditioned” hardware. None of it has been used. Normally it’s just returned stock, or stock that has superficial damage like scratches on the case, etc.

        You can get some pretty hefty savings, sometimes as much as 50%. Check it out.

  • ara@lemmy.ml
    21·
    6 months ago

    I remember like 5 years ago I was doing the same, but then I realized Windows is even worse with many problems and limitations. I can’t just go to Windows, it sucks. Maybe you need compatible hardware or some more skills on Linux to fix your hardware issues.

    • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      14·
      6 months ago

      Definitely this. I’m a total newb when it comes to the CLI. I’m tech savvy but Linux is a whole other universe that I’ve never been exposed to until recently. The online resources to fix stuff are relatively robust and the community is great. At the end of the day I was worn down by too many minor issues piling up and stressing me out.

      • ara@lemmy.ml
        7·
        6 months ago

        About Battery life, did you try this? https://austingwalters.com/increasing-battery-life-on-an-arch-linux-laptop-thinkpad-t14s/ TLP or PowerTop + https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/auto-cpufreq#why-do-i-need-auto-cpufreq ?

        Try Linux another time (I also often switched to Windows in the past until now, I can finally say I would never use a Windows/Apple desktops, I really dislike them), I often try distros on my Laptop while my Desktop has a stable distro to work with. On laptop, I just try different distros as I do like to test them.

        • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
          5·
          6 months ago

          I tried that TLP app, but the options were overwhelming. I had no idea how to configure it properly.

          • cygnus@lemmy.ca
            1·
            6 months ago

            You don’t really need to configure TLP, just let it run in the background and it will “learn” on its own.

            • lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.ml
              1·
              6 months ago

              I’m not sure it ‘learns’, it just gets installed with sane defaults that can help save battery life here and there, without restricting power too much it causes crashes, or other problems. You can configure it further in the config, but for new-to-linux people, often times installing is enough to see some good improvements from the defaults it uses.

      • nakal@kbin.social
        3·
        6 months ago

        I’m a total newb when I use GUIs. I need max automation… I don’t really know how to do this. Also… I never had issues with drivers. And on Windows there is almost nothing installed. You need to install stuff by using a browser … horrible.

  • Poggervania@kbin.social
    11·
    6 months ago

    As somebody who’s dual-booting Windows and Mint on an older laptop and saw battery life improvement in Linux… are you sure the battery isn’t just bad? I could use the laptop for hours before going to 50% on Mint while on Windows I could go maybe 2 hours before going to 50%.

    EDIT: Should clarify, actually curious about the battery life on OP’s end and not trying to be a Linux snob. Wondering if maybe OP should look into a battery replacement if that’s a possibility since I know some batteries suck.

    • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      31·
      6 months ago

      Since I’ve been on windows my battery life has doubled. It’s definitely not my battery.

  • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
    11·
    6 months ago

    Hey, don’t sweat it. You gotta use what’s right for you and that’s all that matters. Talking from a dual-booter’s perspective, here.

  • GustavoM@lemmy.worldEnglish
    104·
    6 months ago

    Call me a conspirator or whatever you want, but this seems like a “under-the-carpet” cope – “I can’t/won’t bother learning how to configure Linux, so I’ll throw a fit, raise a baseless assumption about it and move on to my safe bubble, i.e Winblows.”. Because even if it does have lack of better options for battery – it does have lots of user control. Which you should prioritize over being “spoonfed” by the system. Specially in times like these that anyone can track your device even if it is turned off thanks to bluetooth.

    • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      41·
      6 months ago

      I’m not really throwing a fit. This reads very passive aggressive and moderately offensive. Please don’t make assumptions about my character to soapbox about Linux. I gave Linux a very firm solid handshake trying multiple distros over the course of several months. I didn’t just “throw a fit” and “not bother learning.” Jesus, dude, that comes off as hella rude for no reason.

  • pixelbound@beehaw.org
    6·
    6 months ago

    Have you tried KDE? It took me a year to change from GNOME but it was well worth it. I don’t use a laptop so not sure if switching DE will affect battery life.

    It could be a problem with hibernation and sleep. My desktop will never hibernate or sleep, doesn’t matter the distro: Fedora, Pop or Tumbleweed. Maybe look into that as well?

    • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      Do you have Nvidia GPU? I couldn’t put a laptop with Nvidia GPU into sleep with the Nouveau driver. I had to install the official proprietary driver AND switch to Linux kernel 5.4

  • Kid_Thunder@kbin.social
    4·
    6 months ago

    I’m not trying to convince you to come back but as for the rpm/flatpak/compiling thing, I recommend people run and I run distrobox containers to solve that. So, I have an Arch and Ubuntu distrobox container. You don’t install them either, you just tell distrobox to download them and it runs them. You install the software with AUR/whatever and apt/whatever and then distrobox-export the app(s) from the container. Then it all runs like any other app from your launcher. You don’t really have to know anything about how docker/podman works and runs. It takes care of it.

  • Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    4·
    6 months ago

    It can be a pain. I use linux exclusively for servers and stuff, especially virtual machines, but with my work I simply cannot risk ruining into the sorts of issues you describe so I stick to windows on my desktop/laptop and use WSL for development.

  • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    3·
    6 months ago

    What if I told you there are laptops out there with stellar battery life, with power management that actually works, that come with an actual Unix derived operating system that drop you into a zsh out of the box at the touch of a button without installing anything?

    There are better options out there than widows if you are looking for a good out of the box mobile experience. Just saying.

    • /home/Jeze3D@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      5·
      6 months ago

      I hope to try it again someday. Maybe with my next laptop I’ll get something built for Linux to ensure compatibility. Probably the best bet for newbies who want no undue fussin’.