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      It’s not just America though.

      Where I’m from:

      UK average income before tax) £34,963 - £27,911 after tax (assuming NO student loan and NO pension) (for context: a band 3 nurse with 3 years experience makes £24,336 before tax or £20,631.51 after with no pension)

      England average house price: £375,131

      Approx ratio after tax: 13:1

      Minimum deposit: 5% - £18,756.55

      Tax: 0% on first time buyers

      Fees: about £1,000 - £5,000

      Total cost to get going: Approx £21,750 - nearly a years wage.

      Now let’s look where I live: Spain!

      Turns out Spain really is a load of countries wearing a hat so getting unified stats is not easy. Let’s try Barcelona:

      Average income before tax: €33,837 - €25,470 after tax

      Average house price: €376,399

      Approx ratio after tax: 15:1

      Minimum deposit: 10% - €37,639.90

      Purchase tax: 10% - €37,639.90 (plus 1.5% for new builds)

      Fees: 2 - 5% - 7,527.98 - 18,819.95

      Total cost to get going: €82,807.78 - €94,099.75

      Turns out treating housing as a market to speculate on might just be the problem all along.

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        Just to add to this, there’s zero chance you’re getting a 13x mortgage. For a 375k house on a 25k salary you’re going to need something more like 250k to start.

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          To add to this, the rule of thumb in the UK is your maximum loan is 4.5x your salary.

          The average worker could borrow about £157,000.

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        To be fair, the UK is essentially aiming to be America 2.0

        Many countries are trending more expensive (Belgium went up 30% house price in 4 years) but the UK is on another level of the wealthy literally owning all property and purposely leaving tens of thousands of houses empty just to spite the working class.

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        Yeah, I hate this American-centric idea of “Oh, only my country is experiencing this totally unique problem, I’ll just go somewhere else.

        As if late-stage global capitalism would somehow be a problem that is unique to a single country.

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      Unfortunately not much better elsewhere, if at all. What would make me move is the idiotic healthcare system.