• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    I am quite sure that now amount of torture in western countries is negligible when compared with China and North Korea

    This sounds like western chauvinism. Hoe can you be sure? The US has soo many blacksites, hell even local PDs have them.

    Guantanamo or Pinoshit. Actually Pinoshit and Franco should not be counted as nominal western mindset, since they are authoritarian fascist piece of shits.

    Pinochet was straight up supported by the west until it was too politically inconvenient, but by that time he’d already done his job of eradicating the left. Franco wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t for Britain, France, etc, enforcing “no arms and troops shipments” for the USSR but not for Italy and Germany. And they also weren’t willing to accept Spanish republican gold.

    I despise all authoritarian despots equally, no matter fascist Franco or “communist” Stalin.

    Hmm. One of these people was a dictator. The other was democratically elected and lead the industrialization of a society that allowed it to defeat the industrial superpower that was Germany and end the holocaust.

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      This sounds like western chauvinism. Hoe can you be sure?

      And how can you be sure? Given nontransparent smokescreen of all red imperialist countries like USSR, China and North Korea?

      The other was democratically elected

      Oh yes, USSR, the famous standard of democracy /s

      end the holocaust

      *replace it with the gulag system

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        And how can you be sure? Given nontransparent smokescreen of all red imperialist countries like USSR, China and North Korea?

        You call them imperialist without having an understanding of imperialism.

        For example, explain China increasing in manufacturing output as a percent of their economy as they enter and push into the middle income bracket?

        Also, how the hell is the DPRK imperialist? The only place they’ve invaded was a US military dictatorship in the same country that they’re in, while the US dictatorship was slaughtering 10s of thousands of protestors.

        Oh yes, USSR, the famous standard of democracy /s

        Yes. If you can’t explain how the soviet councils were layered and how elections were carried out then don’t pretend like you can argue about this in an informed way.

        China uses a similar system and has a 95 percent approval rate, according to Harvard Surveys.

        *replace it with the gulag system

        This is holocaust trivialization. The gulags were not meant to kill people, and the mortality rate in them reflects this.