cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17779430
A large percentage of threads I’ve created or participated in have been deleted. Worse is that when visiting the URL everything is completely gone.
This is much more drastic when compared with Reddit thread deletions, where the thread is there and so is the discussion. And the creator of the thread has access to their content.
The Lemmy method discourages people from participating in threads and creating high-quality content, much more so than the Reddit method.
A bunch of lively and useful discussions on Lemmy have completely disappeared. And it makes it seem like a waste of time to even contribute content here.
EDIT: I see that the “fediverse” link for posts has been removed. I posted this to lemmy.ml from a lemmy.world account and there’s no way for me to get the lemmy.ml link now. And when I crosspost it it shows a lemmy.world link instead of the lemmy.ml one. I think this should be changed [back].
A quick look in the modlog shows that less than a year ago moderators deleted a post you wrote called
Reddit is dangerous. The admins are out of control. Humanity needs a viable alternative. – Blog covering the Reddit admins retaliating against me
(The emphasis is mine)
Looks like you have a history of writing inflammatory posts, feeling persecuted about them being removed, and then going off on rants about it.
Some people may take a dump in public spaces, but don’t call for changes to civic statutes so that their shit can be preserved for perpetuity. Please follow that example.
It’s exceedingly bizarre how many people on Lemmy rush to defend Reddit and attack other Lemmy users for anything possible.
This thread had absolutely nothing to do with that, yet you somehow dug through months of mod logs to find the one thread that would allow to you attack me.
“You have a history of being inflammatory towards Reddit on Lemmy! This is not acceptable behavior on Lemmy!”
“My posts keep getting deleted!”
— user looks into public info to find out why your posts might be being deleted —
“Shut up, r×ddit defender!!!”
If you really want to know, I’ve seen a lot of people just delete their old posts for privacy reasons. Trying to keep that internet footprint out of sight.
“My posts keep getting deleted!”
— user looks into public info to find out why your posts might be being deleted —
Nice try, but that’s deceptive. This thread was not about my personal posts. I even gave an example of a recent thread (that I did not make) with hundreds of comments. You’re further proving my point.
I even gave an example
You haven’t given an example. Where are your sources?
How are you supposed to link to a source when it’s completely deleted?
You can see it in my profile though:
@MaximilianKohler to Ask Lemmy Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch? • 5 days ago
This is the link and it looks like it’s been restored https://lemmy.world/post/17593614
I looked in the mod log https://lemmy.world/modlog/3106 and it says:
4 hours ago mod Restored Post Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch? reason: restoring post as it was deleted as a result of the user getting instance banned from lemmy.ml
There is no log of why/when it was removed.
I looked up another one from https://lemmy.world/c/nostupidquestions titled “Where’s all the intelligent discussion at?”, which was removed for rule 7. I don’t agree with the removal reason, but none of this is relevant to the point of the OP. You guys are sidetracking.
My guy: it’s literally the first line of your linked post.
It’s always the people who don’t want to admit their opinions aren’t just rejected by a platform, but by the society as a whole. There’s a reason they feel rejected, it’s because they are. We reject hateful inflammatory things at a societal level, and they feel “persecuted” when they’re called out for their bad beliefs.
We don’t want them here, we don’t want them there. If the problem is following you site to site, the problem isn’t the sites, it’s your beliefs.
Weird that applies to some people and not others…I know plenty of people who’s opinions were rejected by society, and I’m told every day that I must accept their opinions…
I’ve heard this same argument used against LGBT individuals, Palestinians, Jews, etc…
So what makes this guy less deserving? Because he has a contrary opinion to you? The things being deleted are not Nazi propaganda. They aren’t even hateful. They’re just discussions that people disagree with…and because they’re disagreed with, they get removed. Mods should not be removing things due to editorial opinion. If people don’t like it, that’s what the downvote button is for.
People care way too much about stupid internet threads.
They get deleted. Yawn.
Sometimes you gotta purge some fucking Nazi shit and its easier to just dump the whole thing down the loo. Sorry, not sorry.
I’ve never seen “nazi shit” on Lemmy. The threads that have been deleted have all seemed on-topic with normal discussions taking place. The last one was a “what made you leave reddit?” thread with hundreds of comments.
If you’re referring to the post
Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch?, their account was banned for trolling and all content associated with the account was removed.Some examples of their post titles, that likely contributed to their ban
- African Americans (I hope that PC) have you ever gotten the N word tossed at you and how did you react or feel?
- How come in most games including the community of gaming I can’t mention the word Nazi for have a civil conversation?
They also had a number of other posts that seemed to be doing just fine, so it might be falling in the “stupid kid” category.
The post has since been restored by a community moderator, although the user’s account on lemmy.ml is still banned: https://lemmy.world/post/17593614
Yep, that was one of them. Do you think that’s a good mechanism to automatically delete all user’s content when they get banned? Those example titles you shared don’t seem like obvious trolling nor obviously worthy of an account ban, and the collateral damage of deleting valid & popular threads seems bad.
It’s not automatic, admins have the option to ban with or without content removal.
Different instances deal with this differently and admins are also humans that sometimes make mistakes. Especially during holiday season there are frequently trolls running around with racist, transphobic or other offensive content. Sometimes they’re more obvious, sometimes they try to fly under the radar a bit by being less direct. In the end you’re at the mercy of the instance admins of the instance you signed up with and many instances will provide contact information to appeal bans.
Since this account was not a Lemmy.World account it’s not up to us to decide whether or not the user should be banned and whether their content should be removed.
