President Volodymyr Zelensky on Aug. 31 called on the U.S., the U.K., France, and Germany to allow Ukraine to use long-range weapons to strike targets in Russia.

“I appeal to the U.S., the U.K., France and Germany. We need the ability to genuinely and fully defend Ukraine and Ukrainians. We require both: permissions for long-range capabilities and your long-range shells and missiles,” Zelensky said in his evening address.

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Kyiv has long argued that restrictions on the use of long-range weapons are stifling its war effort, while Washington claimed that allowing Ukraine to hit deep into Russian territory with its weapons could escalate the conflict.

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    • Iapar@feddit.org
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      2 months ago

      Yes, if Ukraine falls guess who is next. It is in our all interest to let them do it.

      We have to acknowledge that those people are dying for our safety too.

      • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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        Russia needs to get fucked in a way its current state is completely fractured and it has to make an entirely clean break with its past. It can be done, it seems the political will need only precipitate which can only occur as the Fuck you, got mine folks are increasingly affected. Narcissistic people and methods need to be quarantined so their deathblood can be expressed and any final matters ensured carriage

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    I saw more than I should’ve with the recent Kharkiv bombings by Russia.

    Ukraine should absolutely be able to strike as far as they desire into Russia.

    After all, it’s not escalation; it’s parity.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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      It wouldn’t even be parity. That would require mass targeting of civilians, which I doubt Ukraine will do even if they were allowed and able to strike deep into Russia, as well as using chemical weapons and all kinds of other things.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    I heard someone saying this would start a full scale war, as if the Ukrainians haven’t already been at war and under invasion. Hitting the invading country inside its own borders is an old and well used strategy.

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    I’m down. Let them use everything they can until Russia either gets the fuck out of Ukraine or becomes New Ukraine.

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    I’m at a point where I’m starting to think USA doesn’t want Ukraine to “win” the war, just “fight the war indefinately”. They don’t want either side to lose, but they want Ukraine to look on top.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        Well…I took Biden at his word. I thought him having actual empathy meant he could empathize with Ukrainian mothers losing their sons. I thought the goal was to bring the war to an fnd without causing WWIII. I thought it was a balancing act.

        But now I see no balancing act. I just see a never ending war, played like a game, with human lives as the game pieces. Thrown around like monopoly money. But these people are actual real people. Having their home invaded by a ruthless dictator who claims to be anti-nazi, but is legitimately the modern day hitler.

        I guess I’m just disappointed in my country for treating war like a game, and ignoring the death tally.

      • slaacaa@lemmy.world
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        Yes, they are “boiling the frog”. The strategic goal of the US is not Ukraine winning, it’s Russia losing. By grinding up Russian resources month after month, the US can maximize the long-term damage to Russia by destroying their resources (e.g. money, military equipment, soldiers/workforce).

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    Nuke Putin, please?

    I’ve been really well behaved and have done all my homework…

    • BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org
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      Which is great for wearing your boyfriend’s hoodies, but is slightly more problematic when dealing with geopolitical scales and, you know, countries giving you weapons that you absolutely need to not be steamrolled by an invading force.