• danhab99@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It’s because he donated $1,000 in support of California’s Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California’s state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

    Besides this I cannot find another good reason not to use brave. Nobody point to a specific line of code that ruins privacy, not enough reasons.

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      So you’ve read all the way up to that line and closed the article didn’t you ?

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        There were 3 points:

        1. CEO is a dick: not enough of a reason

        2. Swapping ads: I have ads disabled anyways so what do I care. If I did care I wouldn’t block ads in the first place

        3.1. Promoting/friendships with crypto: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        3.2. Privacy leak: it happens ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        3.3. Partnering with weird people: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        3.4. IS AN ADVERTISING PLATFORM: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      Because Firefox is better.

      I don’t care what the CEO of a corporation is doing because most of them are conservative pieces of shit.

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    I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

    If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

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      1 year ago

      Streaming services seem to lower bitrate when I’m using Firefox vs Brave, so Brave is my go to for streaming.

      I use Firefox for everything else.

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    1 year ago

    I agree that you shouldn’t use Brave browser cause of things they’ve done in the past but, oh Jesus, that article is so stupid it reminds me the Hogwarts Legacy boycott.

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    Unfortunately, there are the ame stuff about Firefox too. Mozilla Foundation is such a corrupt organization with extreme shady finances.

    Foundation’s main income is royalties by google: 567M per year.

    Donations: 7M (which almost goes to the CEO’s bonuses)

    the CEO gets 700K salary and 4.6M bonuses. Lmao.

    I’d suggest, using Firefox but not donating to them.

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    urghhhhh but firefox just doesn’t perform as well. i tried, i really did. i found a 15 year old (!!) bug affecting svg drawing performance that was fucking up a page i was working on, i’m not imagining it.

    I’m not sure if it’s the same one but i just found a similar bug with a five year old comment saying i guess we’re not fixing it anytime soon… https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483868

    I do have it installed and check in occasionally but it feels like a downgrade when i try to use it as a daily driver.

    is there any way to get a functional de-googled chromium build with settings sync across devices?

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      I use Firefox on PC and I’m happy with it there. But on my phone Firefox isn’t great. Scrolling and zooming is pretty choppy, not excessively but it shouldn’t be choppy at all.

      Edit: after posting this I tried using Firefox again for a while. I take back the “excessively” part. It is distractingly slow, there’s no reason for it to be that bad

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        yeah I really notice the difference. I wish I didn’t, I’d rather use Firefox, but it feels slower and I want my settings syncing between devices

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    Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It’s because he donated $1,000 in support of California’s Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California’s state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

    That has nothing to do with the software. And that’s a tiny donation. I’m not going to stop using an excellent tool because one of the guys in charge is a bigot. If that were the case, I wouldn’t be able to eat, drink, breathe, make a phone call, or do anything really. There’s a lot of people out there. Some of them are bigots. We should work to reduce their influence but we can’t boycott literally everything. Every alternative to Brave has at least one bigot involved in it, I guarantee it.

    Brave’s replacement for ads doesn’t reward users in a meaningful amount

    Not enough > 0, which is what you get without adblock. And I’m fine with occasional non-targeted and unobtrusive ads to help fund a service I use.

    Brave’s BAT was built around the cryptocurrency ecosystem

    Who gives a shit except crypto bros? And who gives a shit about crypto bros anyway?

    Brave was also caught up in a privacy scandal in 2020, when it was revealed that the browser was adding affiliate codes to some URLs typed into the address bar.

    Are these affiliate codes tracking you? No? Who gives a shit? It’s more money for Brave, same webpage for you.

    That should have been enough to swear off Brave as a privacy-centric browser forever, considering the entire point of affiliate links is to collect data about the user and traffic source. For example, when you click an Amazon affiliate link in a web article, the publisher can see the exact products you purchase in the timeframe the tracking cookie remains active

    Brave blocks cookies by default. Unless they specifically made an exception in their own browser for these codes, then this carefully-worded paragraph is just bullshit.

    Much like the rest of this article. Bunch of poo-flinging. “Brave is involved in crypto, here’s all the bad things crypto has done, that’s why you shouldn’t use Brave”. Stupid guilt by association and a lot of hot air. Bringing a smoke machine to make people think there’s fire.

    There’s a lot of effort going into making Brave seem like a bad browser and I don’t know why.

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    Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !

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    If you put aside the crypto crap, Brave is an okay browser. Sometimes I use it for web development. But I don’t like the direction the company is heading towards.

    Most of the time I use Firefox with Extensions and Librewolf for everything. Firefox has been my go-to for years and I sure hope it stays that way.

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    Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It’s kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn’t.

    Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

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      Louis Rossmann also recommended Brave in one of his videos. Quite sad.

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          Love everything he criticizes (corporate greed, drm, wasteful planned obsolescence, unrepairable disposable device design) are all incentivized and rewarded under Capitalism … but since he’s a small business owner he still supports the idea of Capitalism.

          He gets so close.

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            Exactly my thoughts. He’s like right on the edge but to me it seems he has some cognitive dissonance re capitalism

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      These people talking as if not all the crypto bloat would be opt in lol. It just take 30 seconds or even less to turn off everything of that.

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        White list firewall. Because this is the real reason everyone has a right to ad block. Ads are hidden links to other websites. It’s like walking through a gauntlet of pick pockets bribing the credit card company just to make it to the checkout at your local grocery store, or some asshole you invite into your home that goes to the bathroom, opens a window, and lets a dozen random people in your home if they pay a dollar for the access. The entire system is based on stalking people. It is criminal.

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    If software works I’ll use it.

    I prefer firefox but I’m not going to tell someone not to use a piece of software because the creator is a retard.

    Learn to be angry at the right things and grow up. Jesus fucking christ people are so god damn stupid now days.

    “Waahh I don’t like this guys political position so I’m going to try to defame all his work and the work of hundreds of others because of one guys personal opinion”

    If this had said something like ‘v3 manifest will be rolled out and they’re going to be anti-anonymity’ then I’d be salty because that would mean the software is becoming less useful.

    Anyone who thinks like this should stop using the internet because, spoiler, the entire backbone of the internet has been contributed to by everyone of every faith, creed and philosophy which means thousands of people you ‘hate’ have contributed to your literal bitching about those very people online.

    Get over yourselves. Actual fucking children.

    This author is a moron.

    Use firefox (or librefox).

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    I think that the number 1 reason to not use brave is that is based on the chromium engine. The number 2 is that they use limited anti fingerprinting tools and support his self built tracking and ads. The others about ideology of the CEO i think are not so important.

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      Because Firefox on mobile is a pile of shit to be honest. It works great on desktop, but the mobile experience is subpar. For a chromium browser, Bromite used to be an option, but it seems abandoned now. Brave is one of the few Foss chromium browsers left that also supports adblocking.