Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are “for the people” and “the will of the people”, yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called “social conservatives” while simultaneously calling for the “deportation of asocial foreigners”). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration…
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
I guess, you & I know that the UK is doing an awful job regarding immigration & asylum seekers. For those who might not know - there are no legal routes to apply for asylum to the UK. All were deliberately removed in a genius move to make it impossible to apply. During Brexit, when the French offered to build a refugee precessing centre in Calais, the UK govt refused just to make it even harder - you can’t get refugees if you don’t process any refugee applications, or so they thought.
The only way currently to apply is to be in the UK - the catch22 is never explained.
So, refugees are now turning up in their thousands in small boats & are housed in hotels at the cost of £6 million a day. Some of these refugees were those who aided the UK in Iraq, Afghanistan & Syria but were not allowed to apply from their home country.
The Home Office is either innundated or on a go-slow to process as little applications as possible, while simultaneously trying to leave the European Court Of Human Rights - just so that refugees can be deported to Rwanda before too many are granted asylum. The conservatives created the problem that they are complaining about & are radicalising the country over it.
The Sweden Democrats are probably happy because the asylum seeker boat that will hold 500 refugees on an offshore ‘floating prison’ is called “The Bibby Stockholm”.
There is a far-right splinter group in the 2 party system here who call themselves the National Conservatives - or NatCs as they are called :)
Bibbi Stockholm will likely not comply with fire hazard laws and other such “rights” that are suddenly trivial and luxury when it’s an asylum seeker. As we speak, a large number of teachers, nurses, doctors, and their many associations in different parts of Sweden are refusing to report the paperless and calling for civil disobedience (as far as I know this is still a proposal the government wants to implement). The government doesn’t seem to be responding to this issue or addressing it.
Bibbi Stockholm will likely not comply with fire hazard laws and other such “rights” that are suddenly trivial and luxury when it’s an asylum seeker
You guessed right, the very first day asylum seekers went onto the barge, Legionnaires’ disease was found in the water supply. Water safety tests were done prior but the people were moved in before the results returned from a lab - so everyone was re-located again while they sorted that out. No such corners are cut in normal situations & when they are - people lose jobs, licences, get sued or imprisoned for negligence. This was just treated as an “oops” as the blame was passed back & forth.
“Rights” are indeed a luxury & the immigration minister even ordered staff remove artwork of Mickey Mouse from the walls at an asylum centre for unaccompanied kids because he said it was too welcoming. I get it, asylum seekers & refugees are not wanted in most countries but the way this is being done is just unbelievable.
Russia know they can’t fight NATO. So they make like-minded autocratic friends like Erdogan, Orban, Trump & try to soften NATO members’ stance towards Russia. The hope is that some, if not all the major NATO member countries will self-radicalise & see nothing wrong with what Russia or China does. Clever & obviously working.
They dont convince people of their Ideas though. All they do is ragebait populism. Their actual Ideas are just shitty fiscal conservativism with some vaguely racist and homophobic social policy. They are not selling the product they are convincing people to buy.
You should recognize that from their point of view what you said is pretty much what they think they’re saying. Squashing bad ideas isn’t worth turning yourself into a ghoul as well. Even people with bad ideas deserve love and compassion.
Most of the original nazis were poor white trash with whatever the cultural equivalent of meth mouth was at the time. Socioeconomic factors were a major motivation for WWII. When you’re poor, you must be hypervigilant against the allure of fascism. Progress always has a human cost, but we can’t recklessly commit to destruction in the name of token or thoughtless self enrichment.
EDIT: Meth Moth sounds like a Venture Bros villain. He’s got no teeth, but he has the frantic energy of ten villains!
When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.
Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are “for the people” and “the will of the people”, yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called “social conservatives” while simultaneously calling for the “deportation of asocial foreigners”). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration…
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
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Hej,
I guess, you & I know that the UK is doing an awful job regarding immigration & asylum seekers. For those who might not know - there are no legal routes to apply for asylum to the UK. All were deliberately removed in a genius move to make it impossible to apply. During Brexit, when the French offered to build a refugee precessing centre in Calais, the UK govt refused just to make it even harder - you can’t get refugees if you don’t process any refugee applications, or so they thought. The only way currently to apply is to be in the UK - the catch22 is never explained. So, refugees are now turning up in their thousands in small boats & are housed in hotels at the cost of £6 million a day. Some of these refugees were those who aided the UK in Iraq, Afghanistan & Syria but were not allowed to apply from their home country.
The Home Office is either innundated or on a go-slow to process as little applications as possible, while simultaneously trying to leave the European Court Of Human Rights - just so that refugees can be deported to Rwanda before too many are granted asylum. The conservatives created the problem that they are complaining about & are radicalising the country over it. The Sweden Democrats are probably happy because the asylum seeker boat that will hold 500 refugees on an offshore ‘floating prison’ is called “The Bibby Stockholm”.
There is a far-right splinter group in the 2 party system here who call themselves the National Conservatives - or NatCs as they are called :)
Thanks for adding all these details.
Bibbi Stockholm will likely not comply with fire hazard laws and other such “rights” that are suddenly trivial and luxury when it’s an asylum seeker. As we speak, a large number of teachers, nurses, doctors, and their many associations in different parts of Sweden are refusing to report the paperless and calling for civil disobedience (as far as I know this is still a proposal the government wants to implement). The government doesn’t seem to be responding to this issue or addressing it.
You guessed right, the very first day asylum seekers went onto the barge, Legionnaires’ disease was found in the water supply. Water safety tests were done prior but the people were moved in before the results returned from a lab - so everyone was re-located again while they sorted that out. No such corners are cut in normal situations & when they are - people lose jobs, licences, get sued or imprisoned for negligence. This was just treated as an “oops” as the blame was passed back & forth.
“Rights” are indeed a luxury & the immigration minister even ordered staff remove artwork of Mickey Mouse from the walls at an asylum centre for unaccompanied kids because he said it was too welcoming. I get it, asylum seekers & refugees are not wanted in most countries but the way this is being done is just unbelievable.
I didn’t believe it at first but that did indeed happen
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/07/robert-jenrick-has-cartoon-murals-painted-over-at-childrens-asylum-centre
Lol, the UK are doing worse with immigration than before Brexit.
Some people really use any lies to make people support their outrageous claims like leaving the EU.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia was helping behind the scenes with it, they want the EU to fail so they can conquer even more territories.
Russia know they can’t fight NATO. So they make like-minded autocratic friends like Erdogan, Orban, Trump & try to soften NATO members’ stance towards Russia. The hope is that some, if not all the major NATO member countries will self-radicalise & see nothing wrong with what Russia or China does. Clever & obviously working.
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If something is worth doing it’s worth doing yourself. Stop outsourcing your aggression to governments.
Eh, I am sadly not in a position where I can ban the AfD. I wish I were.
It’s difficult to ban that kind of thing anyway. Ideas are hard to squash, especially ones born of a mix of ignorance and frustration.
They dont convince people of their Ideas though. All they do is ragebait populism. Their actual Ideas are just shitty fiscal conservativism with some vaguely racist and homophobic social policy. They are not selling the product they are convincing people to buy.
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Eeeeeh… wow. Okay, and you jump straight to euthanize. I’m going to put you into the “part of the problem” box, I think.
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The issue is who decides what kind of behaviour deserves that kind of treatment.
It inevitably ends up harming the wrong people in the end.
I can understand the sentiment though.
You should recognize that from their point of view what you said is pretty much what they think they’re saying. Squashing bad ideas isn’t worth turning yourself into a ghoul as well. Even people with bad ideas deserve love and compassion.
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Holy shit, we are so fucked.
I don’t know about that, German Nazis actually had teeth.
Most Nazis you see in the U.S. are poor white trash with meth mouth.
The main worry is how much damage they do before they’re purged.
Most of the original nazis were poor white trash with whatever the cultural equivalent of meth mouth was at the time. Socioeconomic factors were a major motivation for WWII. When you’re poor, you must be hypervigilant against the allure of fascism. Progress always has a human cost, but we can’t recklessly commit to destruction in the name of token or thoughtless self enrichment.
EDIT: Meth Moth sounds like a Venture Bros villain. He’s got no teeth, but he has the frantic energy of ten villains!
Turns out it was meth!