Hundreds of unsheltered people living in tent encampments in the blocks surrounding the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco have been forced to leave by city outreach workers and police as part of an attempted “clean up the house” ahead of this week’s Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation’s annual free trade conference.

The action, which housing advocates allege violated a court injunction, was celebrated by right-wing figures and the tech crowd, who have long been convinced that the city is in terminal decline because of an increase in encampments in the downtown area.

The X account End Wokness wrote that the displacement was proof the “government can easily fix our cities overnight. It just doesn’t want to” (the post received 77,000 likes). “Queer Eye but it’s just Xi visiting troubled US cities then they get a makeover,” joked Packy McCormick, the founder of Not Boring Capital and advisor to Andreessen Horowitz’s crypto VC team. The New York Post celebrated the action, saying that residents had “miraculously disappeared.”

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    11 months ago

    The real answer is that people feel entitled to live in major cities so they don’t go to the areas where there is cheap real estate.

    They think supply and demand doesn’t apply to them, and they have plenty of other entitled city-dwellers to support them.

    Unfortunately, reality is just different than what they want. They don’t want to admit that though, so they just sit around and wait for other people to solve their problems.

    They’re still waiting.

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        I never said it was easy, but it is doable.

        If you can’t afford to live there, why should someone else foot the bill? Because you’re entitled? You think supply and demand doesn’t apply to you? You think you’re “too good” to live outside of a major city, even though many others do?

        Yeah. Thanks for proving my point.

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          nobody is paying my bills but me. i’m just getting tired of the argument i have been seeing around lemmy lately that wanting to stay in the city (where many of us have JOBS) is “entitled.” i think real estate and rental markets are fucking bonkers when they are pricing out most americans. i have a middle class professional job and i can barely afford it - what about those who work in the service industry who make even less? rent is even harder to cover, and small towns don’t have job markets that can accommodate many.

          guess what? people go where the jobs are. this isn’t about being “too good” to live somewhere, it’s about being in a catch-22 of choosing between employment/healthcare/family and rent.

          quit putting your words in my mouth (“too good,” where the fuck did i say that?) and try talking to actual people.

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              yes, i noticed. bleh, i probably shouldn’t even bother, but i find the idiocy of this argument absolutely infuriating.

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                Wait, you don’t think people opt into homelessness because they just really want to live in the big city? LOL

                I volunteer with a local shelter so I’m pretty up to date on the latest research. I can say from a position of minor authority that this dude is nuts. It’s particularly funny for me because I was homeless for a few years in my twenties, there’s no way I’d do it again voluntarily.

                Regardless, if they’re so desperate to be “right” that they game completely pointless numbers, I suspect they’re not going to engage in any sort of reasoned discussion.

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                  many of the folks i work with are functionally homeless and i wish i could do more. i’m glad you made it out alright!

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        You need to brush up on your reading comprehension.

        People feel entitled to live in major cities. They think life outside of one doesn’t matter and they’d rather be homeless in LA than living in a house in Bald Knob.

        Those who try to spend taxpayer money to house people in major cities think they’re above supply and demand and entitled to live in major cities even if they can’t afford it. They’re important though, because they funnel taxpayer money to landlords.

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        You’re absolutely right and I’m baffled that you and some others are getting down voted so heavily with only one critical response. Either there are a lot of dim bulbs in this comment section or someone is manipulating votes. Interceptor there has an unusual distribution of vote frequency, making all of his comments outliers. Looks like someone is cheating at Lemmy. What a weirdo.

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      You say the homeless in cities pay more to sleep on the street than the rural homeless, but you fail to provide sidewalk sleeping cost comparables. If you’re going to be so ridiculous it’s important to be very over the top, or people may really believe this is somehow your view.