• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    I haven’t forgotten how BP used chemicals to make all the oil just sink to the bottom of the gulf so people would forget what they did quicker. We don’t deserve this planet.

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      Yeah, that’s not how dispersants work. Or are you claiming there’s a new chemical that does that. Does it make frogs gay too? Is it released by chemtrails? Nice of to you share misinformation on the web. I hear the GoP is hiring, seems like a good fit.

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        While submerging the oil with dispersant may lessen exposure to marine life on the surface, it increases exposure for animals dwelling underwater, who may be harmed by toxicity of both dispersed oil and dispersant. Although dispersant reduces the amount of oil that lands ashore, it may allow faster, deeper penetration of oil into coastal terrain, where it is not easily biodegraded.

        Sorry if I didn’t use the exact terminology you deemed appropriate. Either way I don’t find my description is incorrect. They used the dispersant to push the issue below the surface of the water.

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          Nice cherry picking.

          Here, let me provide link, from the EPA:

          https://www.epa.gov/emergency-response/dispersants

          “Dispersants can be applied on surface oil or below the surface, closer to an uncontrolled release of crude oil from a well blowout source. In an oil spill, these smaller oil droplets disperse into the water column where they are transported by currents and subjected to other natural processes such as dissolution and biodegradation.”

          There are plenty of arguments against the use of dispersants, not the least of which is the toxicity of the dispersant itself. However there is a strong argument that supports it as the lesser of two evils.

          People should have gone to jail over the BP spill. So many flagrant safety violations and illegal behavior were identified.

          But you’ll never forget the “submerging of the oil”.

          If you are going to virtue signal, at least base it off a real issue.

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            The issue that the dispersant was controversial at the time and the jury is still out on if it helped or hurt? I’m glad we agree. I find it really weird how hostile you are

            My point was BP didn’t care if it helped or it hurt, they knew it would hide the oil with either outcome.

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              You are just another internet activist that has a very vague understanding of how shit works in real life and virtue signal for upvotes.

              You could have said something like, “I will never forget the environmental catastrophe that BP caused.” and I would have upvoted and moved on.

              But you spoke like you knew what the hell you were talking about and someone else is going to read it and be like, “Yeah, they submerged the oil, fuck BP!” and your little rant just added to the useless noise that drowns out real facts.

              You are NOT helping.

              Misinformation hurts, no matter why you do it.

              Just go back to reddit if all you want is upvotes.

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                  Says the guy commenting on all my comments.

                  I’m getting downvotes, so how is this for clout?

                  You really are a special type of dumb.

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                I’d rather “virtue signal” over being an argumentative iamverysmart pedant. Now that’s something I wish stayed on Reddit and yet here you are. Have a nice life you miserable fuck

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                  You make up shit and call me the pedant. Fine, I’ll be blunt.

                  You are a liar and you make the internet a worse place by filling it with noise.

                  Next time you want to comment, at least have the decency to know what the you are talking about.

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      The danger, as the article says, is letting them continue to operate in the area. At what point do we say “okay we’ve nearly totally fucked this place up, find someplace else”

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        Ideally? Back in 2010 when BP made it clear they were systemically hiding critical safety and environmental control failures.

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          The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is right now.

          It may be too late to save humanity, but it’s never too late to do the right thing.

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        Any oil spill is terrible, but this article is blatant bullshit, written for clickbait.

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      Comparing a bad thing to another bad thing that was larger doesn’t make the lesser not also still a bad thing. Not that you necessarily think that of course but some people use this as a defense quite often. “Like x person in history killed a million people but I only murdered one why are you so mad at me?!How am I bad!” haha

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    That reporter/editor should be fined or charged with this blatant bullshit.

    “The U S. Coast Guard said Monday that an estimated 1.1 million gallons of crude oil has leaked into the Gulf…” and linked the actual press release in that line.

    When you actually read the press release, and then lower in the article, it says the amount is actually unknown.

    They know how much oil the pipeline holds, which would be around that estimate. It could only be a couple hundred gallons that have actually leaked.

    Also they are not even sure where the leak is, so it might not even be the named company’s fault.

    Yeah oil industry sucks, but this sounds like a fat nothing burger that CBS is pumping for clicks. No wonder no one trusts the media.

    (This is a reposted comment from when this bullshit article was posted earlier)

    The OP of this repost didn’t even have the decency to share the qualifications from inside the article.

    They are just as terrible of an attention seeking whore as the writer of the article.

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      It could only be a couple hundred gallons that have actually leaked.

      Ah yes. Much better. Personally I prefer no oil leaked myself. But you know Capitalism and all that hub bub.

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        I don’t disagree with your sentiment.

        I think it is bad enough though, without the news source twisting it for sensationalism.

        *Edit. Hmm, I guess you people are ok with lies as long as they support the narrative you want. Is this suddenly a GoP sub?

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    How do 1 million gallons of oil accidentally leak into the Gulf Of Mexico? Don’t the oil companies have valves on their equipment?

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      I haven’t read the article but sometimes oil cracks out from the actual ocean floor, not valves, and is very hard to plug. Not sure if that’s the case here.

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      They do, it isn’t a million. The article is deliberate sensationalism. If you read the Coast Guard’s press releases, you will see they didn’t say a million gallons was leaked.

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      The other oil spills, the garbage, the global warming, the agricultural runoff, and the microplastics already killed >99% of them. So it’s quite possible there are not any more (Endangered Species) left in the entire ocean.

      So yeah allegedly I mean potentially

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    Turns out, building your entire economy and financial system on O&G causes problems for the environment, huh?

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    But didn’t you all see the commercial on TV promoting Oil and Natural gas as being amazing? This is a good thing right? /S

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    On Facebook, the Coast Guard said that oil was “skimmed and sampled” roughly four miles southeast of South Pass, Louisiana on Friday, at which point they retrieved about 210 gallons of “oily-water mixture.”

    Matt Rota, senior policy director for Healthy Gulf, told CBS affiliate WWL-TV that the amount of oil thought to have spilled could still increase.

    NOAA is helping oversee the incident, and the agency’s emergency operations coordinator Doug Helton told WWL that it’s not necessarily the amount of oil, but its impact, that is of most concern.

    Just north of the spill and Plaquemines Parish lies the Chandeleur Islands, where last year, the world’s most endangered sea turtle species, the Kemp’s Ridley, was found hatching for the first time in three-quarters of a century.

    “Continued oil and gas development in the Gulf represents a clear, existential threat to the whale’s survival and recovery,” a group of 100 scientists said in a letter to the Biden administration last year.

    “The government’s Natural Resource Damage Assessment on the Deepwater Horizon oil spill estimates that nearly 20% of Gulf of Mexico whales were killed, with additional animals suffering reproductive failure and disease.”


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