The Biden administration on Monday sent Congress an urgent warning about the need to approve tens of billions of dollars in military and economic assistance to Ukraine, saying Kyiv’s war effort to defend itself from Russia’s invasion may grind to a halt without it.
In a letter to House and Senate leaders and also released publicly, Office of Management and Budget Director Shalanda Young warned the U.S. will run out of funding to send weapons and assistance to Ukraine by the end of the year, saying that would “kneecap” Ukraine on the battlefield.
She added that the U.S. already has run out of money that it has used to prop up Ukraine’s economy, and “if Ukraine’s economy collapses, they will not be able to keep fighting, full stop.”
The GOP will, of course, stand with Putin. The GOP has always famously stood by the USSR/Russia. I believe it was Ronald Reagen who bravely said “Mr. Gorbachev, build me a fucking wall.”
Lol, close but not quite what he said. Sorry if you were making a joke. The actual quote was “you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall.”
No, the real quote was, “All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.”
Hey! Putin! Leave them kids alone!
Bullshit. It was “Mexico will pay for the wall.”.
It’s embarrassing we haven’t yet gotten a military/Ukraine funding bill through two months ago.
The Republicans were always Putins best friends in the US. Trumps admiration for dictators didn’t help it either.
Should have given all that money to Israel. And now they want more tax money. Ugh
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration on Monday sent Congress an urgent warning about the need to approve tens of billions of dollars in military and economic assistance to Ukraine, saying Kyiv’s war effort to defend itself from Russia’s invasion may grind to a halt without it.
In a letter to House and Senate leaders and also released publicly, Office of Management and Budget Director Shalanda Young warned the U.S. will run out of funding to send weapons and assistance to Ukraine by the end of the year, saying that would “kneecap” Ukraine on the battlefield.
Biden has sought a nearly $106 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and other needs, but it has faced a difficult reception on Capitol Hill, where there is growing skepticism about the magnitude of assistance for Ukraine and where even Republicans supportive of the funding are insisting on U.S.-Mexico border policy changes to halt the flow of migrants as a condition for the assistance.
The Biden administration has said it has slowed the pace of some military assistance to Kyiv in recent weeks to try to stretch supplies until Congress approves more funding.
The letter followed a classified Capitol Hill briefing on Nov. 29 for the top House and Senate leaders on the need for the assistance.
Defense and other national security officials briefed the “big four” congressional leaders as Congress is debating President Joe Biden’s nearly $106 billion funding package, which includes $61 billion for Ukraine but has become snared by Republican demands for U.S.-Mexico border security changes.
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Classic US. Overspends and forces a debt they will not end up paying. Instead, the US will probably end up with several land/mining rights from Ukraine and maybe Russia, since they won’t be able to pay either.
Hmm Russia’s got oil. We like oil.
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One more billion should do it.
Hey I’ve got an idea, let’s drag the Ukraine war out another 2 decades and see how much death and destruction that can continue to fester.
I’m sure it won’t lead to millions of angry, broken men who will never be able to feel integrate with society and cause a spiraling of violence and crime throughout Europe and the world reverberating for decades into the future.
Oh, and drug use and homelessness. Almost forgot about that, silly me.
Well, we could end this horror-show tomorrow by turning Moscow into a sheet of glass.
Let’s call Vlad Puta’s bluff and see how many of his 50 year old ICBM’s even make it out of their silos, much less to a target. They are widely thought to be ill-maintained, looted by a very active military black market, and old as shit. Add to that our space and air defense spending, and I’m betting the only country that would experience any Russian radiation would be Russia.
actively calling for nuclear war because you are not entertained by the ongoing war - very cool.
Defending Russia because you are entertained by children, elderly and non-combatants being tortured, raped and murdered - very cool.
where did I defend Russia. Also if you think Ukraine and USA don’t torture, rape and murder innocent civilians I don’t know what to tell you.
And where did I mention being entertained or not by a war? Yet you pretended I was calling for an attack on Russia for my own entertainment.
Your post history defends Putin over and over again, so you can fuck smooth off with that fake, smug conservative bullshit. I am not fooled by your insincere, bad faith troll arguments, blyat.
oh I’m so sorry I tried to fool a wise intelligent person like yourself.
I’ll go back to Russia since you have outed me so badly, also thanks for typing that Russian word - a language I obviously know.
No problem. Always happy to help.
LOL what happened to all the articles saying Russia was Donezo two year ago? America is Donezo.
~5% of the US’s military budget worth of mostly old equipment was enough to halt Ruzzia. But keep coping all you want vatnik.
If you are an ally of US or NATO in general, the conflict in Ukraine is probably a rude awakening as to what you can expect if you get into a conflict.
What? Had Ukraine been in NATO this would’ve been a full blown war with boots on the ground from the entirety of NATO, not just weapon deliveries. And Russia would’ve been completely unable to advance. NATO would have complete air superiority inside the first month, any visible Russian base within or near Ukraine would be decimated and their only course of action would be fortifying positions in cities among the civilian population. Trying to fight a regular war would just end up in a decisive defeat within months. It would be very similar to Desert Storm. Advancing to and clearing fortified cities would of course prove a challenge even with NATO fully involved, and I fully expect that Russia would go all in on guerilla tactics in that case.
If Ukraine had already been part of NATO, Russia would never have attacked as that would have immediately triggered article 5 and there would be B-2 bombers circling the Kremlin.
Precisely
Oh it would have been worse than desert storm
A mutiny force almost took Moscow just a while ago. NATO would be making jokes about reuniting Ukraine with Raspberry Ukraine, Grey Ukraine, Yellow Ukraine, and Green Ukraine just to let China worry about a NATO state on its borders to make its problems with the First Island Chain even worse
That’s absolutely great for NATO members, but not for allies which I outlined above. Being a reliable ally is paramount to maintain soft power… given how Ukraine is turning out, if I were say the Philippines, I’d be really concerned about the US support in a potential conflict with China.
… Of course NATO only truly protects members. That is part of their charter. Anyone can Google that in 5 minutes. Support for Ukraine happens because EU and US are concerned about Russian aggression and expansion towards the West. Had they invaded say Mongolia or one of the Stans then I’d be very surprised if NATO / the EU provided anything but humanitarian support. The sanctions would probably happen still though.
If you don’t know what soft power is, you could give yourself a favour and try googling it. No matter how you spin it, a lot of countries attempting to resist China (and Russia or Iran) will start wondering after this absolute struggle of a support.
Thing is Ukraine doesn’t have a defense pact with the US. The US is doing this out of (insert any number of reasons ranging from stability in the region, strengthening ties, propping up military manufacturers etc).
The Philippines have had a defense pact with the US since 1951 and basically means if things can’t be resolved diplomatically the US will commit not just arms but fighting forces to the joint defense of the nation.
To quote Wikipedia - ‘In a 2022 meeting, US Vice-President Kamala Harris reportedly assured Philippine president Bongbong Marcos that “an armed attack on the Philippines armed forces, public vessels, or aircraft in the South China Sea would invoke US Mutual Defense commitments.”’
That is how a defensive alliance works, yes
Wtf are you talking about? Putin said Kyiv would fall in 48 hours or something like that. Instead his country is hemorrhaging money and fighting-aged men, Russia controls only slightly more territory than it did before the invasion.
And that’s with neither NATO nor the us are in a hot war with Russia. If we were, circumstances would be very different and the only thing flying in Russian airspace would be snow.
You mean that even them just providing aid will be enough for you to stalemate a self proclaimed superpower and then push back against them and launch direct attacks against them?
I agree, this war is a big signpost for smaller nations who share borders with large neighbors known for considering themselves superpowers while also boo-hooing themselves as le-opressed global south for internet privs to stan for because Lebensraum and Irredentism are cool when something something colonialism.
When Ethiopia invades Eritrea or Eastern Somalia, these types will flock to defend them against any accusation of wrongdoing because “but self governance and sovereignty over your own ports is colonialism!”
What about us Americans struggling in our economy?
Hmm, maybe it’s time to stop passing trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts for the 1%?
No no i think we can get blood out of this stone if we try hard enough
The money spent on Ukraine has been essentially pennies relative to any significant domestic program.
If you instead redistributed all the $113 billion spent since the invasion began in 2022, you could give each American a grand total of $340. A nice chunk of change, to be sure, but spread out over the course of the war, this is literally $15 a month.
Personally, I’m okay having $340 less over the course of nearly two years if the alternative is tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians and Russia successfully re-asserting that violent conquest will not be resisted. Moldova would almost certainly be invaded next as well, since they’re not in NATO. $15 a month is a pretty damn cheap price to pay to protect a democracy and save countless lives (not to mention, the torture and rape the Russian army has been committing as well)
Not to mention getting to neener neener about being on the side of international law and order if only for once at least.
Do you feel the same way about every other conflict in this world or just the one in Europe? What about spending money to prevent the conflict in Africa (Ethiopia) or in Asia (Myanmar)? Will you be willing to pay higher taxes to fight off the drug cartels in Central and South America?
We got all these issues here in the US. Homelessness, gun violence, drug overdoses, overcrowded prisons, massive personal debt (student loans, car, credit card), etc. I don’t care to arm another nation and play proxy war.
Well, we do already fund a ton of foreign aid all over the world, so quite a lot of that is already happening. But to address those particular things: homelessness is not a problem where simply throwing money at it magically solves it; it’s incredibly complex. New York City alone spends 3.5 billion dollars a year just on homelessness. The only financial solution to gun violence is to bribe the SCOTUS to repeal DC v. Heller. Drug policy is largely in the hands of the states, but even then, there’s no simple solution to it, particularly when you have to deal with local politics for things like treatment facilities. Prisons are largely state operated. Personal debt is largely outside the scope of the federal government, but even then, student loan forgiveness was attempted. But to throw a number at it, redirecting all Ukraine aid towards individual credit card debt would pay for only 10% of it.
Are there particular federal programs of comparable financial impact with sufficient political support that you think would pay significant returns if boosted by foreign aid money (ignoring the general decline in global stability that would ensue).
Will you be willing to pay higher taxes to fight off the drug cartels in Central and South America?
I mean, the economic dividends there are obvious. If it really was as simple as throwing some money at Central and South America in order to make the cartels vanish forever and turn those countries into stable countries that we could do significant trade with, we’d earn far more than we paid. But that price tag doesn’t actually exist, because these problems are more complicated than simply throwing money at them.
I didn’t make my point clear in the previous post so I’ll state my stance. I don’t really care to send money to Ukraine so they can fight their war. I think maybe a good percentage of Americans would feel the same (mostly republicans). I don’t have the same reasons as they have however. When I indicated the money is better spent here I was referring to lowering my taxes. I know that the money to Ukraine won’t even lower my taxes by 0.01% and the real money sink is military and social security but the optics don’t look good in my eyes.
Take the perspective of the other side. “I’m paying all this money in taxes, my roads are bad, crime from the drugs are around my corner, my job ain’t covering all my expenses like it used to. And those people in Washington are giving money to the Europeans so they can fight a war!”
Nobody cares about local sectarian extremists killing each other over nothing. That’s not what’s happening in Ukraine, where the stakes actually matter to the international community.
Explain how the war in Ukraine is so important to the international community because the only ones I see care are the western countries. USA, EU, probably Australia and Canada.
International Grain supply?
Africa in particular heavily depends on Ukrainian grain shipments, without which said countries will likely descend into scarcity induced violence, which will create yet another international migrant crisis for the western right to act like helping with is tantamount to surrendering to an invasion while swearing how totally not racist they are.
And if you think those countries would be fine if either Ukraine or Russia held those fields and ports, no they wouldn’t because Russia has demonstrated it is well willing to exploit market power for political gain, meaning that unless you sign on with whatever Putin wants, you can forget about feeding your people without paying through the nose for it.
This is literally a war to protect the sovereign rights of all smaller nations, first of all to not be invaded, and second of all to chart their paths without being extorted into an expedient lane by a market share superpower holding their ability to have food hostage for political favors.
That’s pretty much the only relevant international community. Those countries pretty much represent most of the world’s economic and military power.
Did you forget that China is the second largest economy in the world? The Middle East and OPEC has a stranglehold over the world energy. Asia is the world manufacturing hub. The west is not the only relevant international community.
That’s just old fashioned capitalism. You’ll never win.
By any capitalist measure, the economy is doing great. If you’re struggling, maybe reconsider supporting a system that doesn’t care about how well you’re doing as long as profits are up.
