• Rob Bos@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    “I’m having trouble with this game on Linux”

    “Just install Windows, nerd. Stupid zealots.”

    Goes the other way too. :p

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    Am I the only one who never promotes Linux?

    I’m currently holding an opinion that everyone who can enjoy Linux will eventually try it on their own.

    I think, despite what many people say, an average user still has a very rough time using it, and in my opinion you need some level of nerdiness in order to overcome adaptation pains, and such people already use internet in a nerdy way and will try out Linux on their own eventually.

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      I think this depends. People who need basic computer functions can get on very well with linux.

      My classmate in highschool had ubuntu on his home pc as long as I remember, because someone preconfigured it for them and it was mainly a browser - schoolwork machine. He gamed on XBox. There was no hassle, it was fine.

      My mom on her run down laptop has mint now, because I configured it for her. I haven’t heard any complaints.

      E: Also many hospital here run Linux and it is just fine, and trust me, many of the medical staff are barely tech literate enough to register for email themselves.

      Linux is a problem for people who come from windows and need more than basics but are not tech savvy enough to get their hands dirty. Then once your comfort level with tinkering goes up again, Linux is once again not a bad recommendation. It really kind of is the bell curve meme.

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      I would not actually recommend it to anyone IRL, but on the internet? Sure. You are not happy with the lack of privacy on Windows? I have the solution for you! Also I setup my dad with Mint after Win XP support ran out. He uses nothing but Chrome and Thunderbird anyways. Just taught him how to do updates and he is good to go.

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      I don’t either (despite the fact that I use Arch BTW). The average adult in my country is barely able to use their computer for basic tasks (think Word/Excel, basic internet usage). Having all these people on Linux is a nightmare scenario I don’t want to imagine. I would love nothing more than Linux becoming the norm in the not-so-distant future, but the computer literacy in the general population is just too low right now.

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      The only reason it’s like that is because devices come preinstalled with Windows. I would love if we had the Linux option that makes the device cost less

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      Agreed. Unconditionally recommending Linux to regular people isn’t a good idea. In my opinion it’s fine with all the disclaimers about possible disadvantages and recommend them to inform themselves about it.

      Just talking about my experience got them interested enough to at some point try to daily drive Linux on their desktop PC, one of them used PopOS for 2 years on their uni laptop at that point.

      At the end of the day it’s all about expectations. Most people are uninterested in computers and want to continue using what they know. Others want to experiment and will learn more themselves after being shown something interesting (through YT, conversations, Steam Deck tutorials, …).

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      8 months ago

      Tech support has been my status since I was 12. Honestly, I enjoy being able to explain stuff like this.

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        Yeah, same, stuff like why is Linux on my computer now, why are ads blocked, where is Chrome, etc - listen, I’m the only tech support you have, you get what you get, and you get FOSS.

        Honestly it worked fairly perfectly for me over the decades.

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    Well, as a Linux user myself, I used to do this kind of thing when I was getting started and was too damn hyped about FOSS and everything. Now, I simply ask people what they want from a computer and how much are they invested into tech.

    Do you want things to be as simple as possible? Use Mac or Windows.

    Do you want to learn more about how things work under the hood? Use Linux.

    Gaming? Use Windows (and yes, although I’m a proud Proton user, some games just won’t work, like Valorant and PUBG).

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    As an IT professional with over two decades of experience I can say this meme is wholly inaccurate.

    The first thing you try when you have computer problems is to turn it off and on again.

    Then if it’s still broken, install a PDF reader.

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I haven’t owned a Windows machine in over a decade. If someone wants help, this is my response because I have not kept up with the changes, for lack of any need or desire to do so.

    “Can you help me with my computer?”

    “If it is running Linux or BSD, or you want it to, sure. If not, I’m not the guy for the job.”

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    It’s all fun and games until you try to use Linux and spend 3 months trying to figure out how to do something like setting up digital 5.1 audio or how to get your graphics drivers to actually work properly

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    This is just anecdotal, but if they’re normal users and have a bit of money, advise them to get a mac. If not, they don’t need your help.

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    I prefer to explain in detail how to fix that and then say in one short sentence how easier I would fix it on Linux if it happened on Linux, which it obviously wouldn’t. It’s usually completely unbiased and I’m a popular person :)

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    I do use Linux, and I’m usually glad about it, but I wasted an hour last night trying to figure out how to change my microphone port to a subwoofer port, and never did solve the problem. Linux is awesome, but sometimes basic stuff is ridiculously difficult or impossible.

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      Does the physical port actually have that capability? My motherboard has a lot of audio ports but inputs cannot be outputs and vice versa

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        Yes, and it’s trivial to retask with the AC97 HD Audio program in Windows, but I couldn’t find an equivalent program for Linux.

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    You get a huge backlash if you advice Windows to a Linux user.

    But somehow this is supposed to be funny?

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      Its funny because a lot of people do this even though its completely unhelpful in solving their problem.