I some times think about it and how shitty people are

  • Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Remember that

    • Unless your a professional communicator, talking to media is always dangerous. They can totally change what you say using “editing”, and loaded question can quickly trap you. There is a reason why there is so many job in communication and media assistant, you don’t want to let people talk unsupervised

    • Honestly, if only a sub reddit keeps a political movement alive, it isn’t a political movement

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      To expand on the point about editing for anyone who assumes that is only means taking things out of context, editing can also be rearranging the order of communication to change the meaning as well as introducing context prior to the interaction that changes the meaning.

      Fox News is known for doing all of that.

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    3 months ago

    That mod was definitely not a great public representative. Why go on Fox at all? Pretty obvious they’d try to make you look bad.

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      Knowing reddit, I assume the thinking was something along the lines of “I can regularly win a reddit argument, therefore my towering intellect will surely win the day on TV and I will become a hero.” Which of course doesn’t hold up at all against someone with professional-grade social/communication skills no matter how right-on your point is.

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    To be fair, a lot of the content on that antiwork sub was basically “communism is when we don’t have to work.” The whole thing reeked of propaganda intended to make the left look stupid.

    • a lil bee 🐝@lemmy.world
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      Why is it that everytime someone on the left does something stupid online, it’s automatically propaganda? Why can’t it just be the case that there are a lot of politically and generally uneducated people that are part of the movement, which is consistent with every populist movement for all time? This has to be reckoned with and mitigated if the left ever wants to actually hold power and do something with it.

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        It’s funny you should ask. I use this language specifically because when I say that leftist communities are filled with cringe populism and bad political science, I get banned from .ml pretty reliably. Calling it out as propaganda seems to play better most of the time.

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      Nah.

      A couple idiots made the sub. But then it got popular and most of its users were way more rational than the people who created it.

      But they were still the ones in charge of it.

      So when Faux News reached out for an interview, they 100% believed they represented their user base and it would be a good idea.

      If I’m remembering right, the mod didn’t even announce they were doing it. The sub didn’t find out till it was aired.

      And Faux portrayed the idiot that came on as a perfect representation of all users of the sub.

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      To be fair, nobody should have to work once Communism is achieved. During socialism sure. Socialism (worker ownership of MOP) incentives automation. Eventually there would be no necessary labor nor resource scarcity. Which is the only way I see communism being fully achieved. FALSC( Fully automated luxury space communism).

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      I can’t imagine that a sub against working is against working. Maybe they should have picked a better name?

      There are always a few people who take things to extremes and make themselves look bad. The person who ended up being interviewed on Fox News made themselves look foolish on their own, the only real issue there was their views being treated as a thing that the majority of the left thinks.

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    Yep, im pretty sure after that reddit Admins ousted the remaining mods and installed their own. Thats part of why the workreform sub grew so large.

    Definitely not a psyop though, its not like the government has ever done something like that before by lets say dismanteling a radical black socialist group by dividing it against itself into two competing street gangs . . .

    Oh wait . . .

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      Had you read any of the shit before? It’s not like anyone needed to do anything. They just had to wait for it to self-incinerate - which it disgracefully did - and then take over.

      Why put in effort if all you need to do is eat popcorn and watch? :D

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        TBH this is one of the left’s major flaws in general, in my opinion. The right will generally all glom together on an issue even if it’s not 100% what they want, just as long as it’s pushing things in the general direction they want. The left tends to be like herding cats, even if you can get a decent amount of people behind an issue, it’ll inevitably split over some relatively minor disagreement and then the two sides will spend more time fighting each other than moving the general cause forwards.

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      ‘Workreform’ was a more accurate name for the majority of people that were on antiwork anyway, since reducing the amount of work and improving conditions while recognizing that some work is still needed is not the same thing as being against work as a concept.

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    One of the reasons I am on Lemmy is to get away from all the bullshit Reddit drama and infighting…