Sony learned nothing from the Helldivers 2 shitshow.
Not in a million fucking years Sony. I would have gladly given you my money, but apparently that’s not good enough for you.
The seas are mighty fine this time of year, I might as well go for a sail.
I don’t honestly understand why Sony is pushing this do hard.
Marketing. They want to increase PSN account numbers to increase their valuation, to have more data, and to make it easier for customers to move to their products/services since the account creation is already done.
There’s definitely a CEO whose bonus depends on hitting a certain number of PSN accounts. I can only assume account info is being sold because why else would they care? It’s either that or they eventually plan on charging PC players a monthly fee to play all their Sony games.
It’s either that or they eventually plan on charging PC players a monthly fee to play all their Sony games.
That would be hilarious, I’d love to see the backlash if they tried that.
It would sound an awful lot like the high seas, methinks.
Could be market share. More PSN accounts than Nintendo and Xbox in competition.
Just to play devil’s advocate here.
But I’m with you, either selling data or both of these.
could also just be as simple as getting people’s feet in the door to their marketplace. if you already have an account maybe you’ll be fractionally more likely to buy other stuff in the store. multiply that by a few million or whatever… it’s not nothing.
This is the actual strategy they’re going for I think
Yea. Someone higher up at PlayStation (I forgot who, might have been the CEO) recently said that they believe PC gamers would buy PlayStations to play exclusive sequels to their PC games (like Horizon Forbidden west, which is not yet on PC). Forcing PSN accounts for their games on PC opens the door to getting a PlayStation just a little bit further.
They want your data so they can market you a PS5 better.
Sony learned nothing from the Helldivers 2 shitshow
Well they learned to announce that it would require an account before releasing the game rather than after people had already bought it, which was the complaint with Helldivers, right?
While it was the complaint, the game did mention a required PSN account on all storefronts. This was disabled when auth/login was unplayably bad on launch week, then not re-enabled until a while later (with a week long heads up for new players and a month long heads up for existing players). Nobody actually got locked out of the game, and as my PSN account is registered somewhere I do not live, I don’t think anyone would’ve been stopped playing by the change if it had been pushed.
What we “won” and sony “learned” is that they can’t get accurate metrics on playercount since HD2’s statistics aren’t being tracked correctly by the game’s session system and the playerbase is uncooperative. In this era where data is king, this just means we’ll stop seeing Sony funded helldivers ads on youtube while they market their giants that correctly report the data they’re looking for that helps them make a userbase that prints money.
Oh, and we marred the all-time and recent review score from overwhelmingly positive. Guarantee you the successful action was the steam refund count on the game - truly unsolvable problem. As refund requests that don’t meet an automatic metric need a reply, and resolution usually takes ~an hour, the 6 digit refund count was not realistically solvable without rolling the requirement for a legitimate PSN account back. You can track how many total refund requests steam has day by day, as this is a public count in steam’s support page. There were 800k more than the average weekend.
Tl;dr: while the complaint was this, the reality was not. The review bomb hurt arrowhead’s relationship with sony more than it hurt sony. The refund bomb didn’t cause steam to change policies this time but damn if it isn’t justified now.
The DELUSiONAL crack in my left pocket:
You’re telling me a week of “protest” followed by gamers immediately forgiving the big corporation because they eventually backtracked didn’t really change anything? :o
See you next week, when PSN accounts are required for Helldivers 2 again lol
Well, another game I won’t be playing in that case. Fortunately my backlog is large enough to keep me busy for the next couple of years, so I feel no need to play every new title. But still: my wallet thanks Sony for making the choice for me.
We’ll help you pirate it, just ask.
Thanks, I know my way around the high seas should the need arise. But I can’t play every game out there anyway, so as long as I can get my gaming needs satisfied through non-shittified legal means I prefer that.
Ragnarok
“… should the mead arise.”
Oh, and also, it’s only “illegal” because they have the money.
See: wage theft
Not if I pirate it.
Cheaper, better
Let me tell you what to do when the game drops on steam:
- Buy it at full price as soon as it releases.
- Press play, get to the PSN login screen or whatever it is.
- Close it.
- Immediately post a negative review saying it requires a PSN account.
- Request a refund from Steam, you’ll basically get it automatically as you played less than 2 hours.
- …
- Profit! Watch Sony squirm with those reviews.
I’m honestly asking why people are so furious about the psn account. Is it because you don’t want to give your data to Sony?
I’d clearly understand with something like facebook or google, but I don’t think giving my data to Sony is the end of the world.
I’m not a pc gamer and I wouldn’t want to have every company pushing for their own account, but I don’t see why Sony is getting so criticized when (I think) Ubisoft or Electronic Arts have been doing this for years on PC.
Sony has a long history of data breaches and hacks. https://firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline
