• Jyek@sh.itjust.works
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    I feel like calling George Stephanopoulos an “ABC Host” kinda minimizes the career he’s had… He was a white House communications director, then the Senior Advisor to the President of the United States of America… Then he became a news reporter and eventually a co-host of Good Morning America. Honestly he’s a household name in the US.

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    Now the media growing balls? Seems like convicting someone 34 times all of a sudden makes spewing lies on TV (all “news” outlets) a bad thing

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    Legacy media and status quo people always use that excuse.

    They are the choosen people that know the real truth only, so lets censor any opposition that goes against our narrative.

    This is not just used against Trump, they use it for much more.

    No surprise the working class people do not trust legacy media and their ilk.

    Independent media is the way to go, not saying to stop seeing legacy media, but question and be criticial of the status quo.

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            Not sure what that means, but thanks for explaining something that may help benefit those that may realign their views on said topic!

            I will do my own research into Beer Hall Putsch!

            Thanks agian, learn something new everyday, hahaha

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              This comment is quite informative. The “both sides” people are REALLY not aware of history. Hopefully they educate themselves to the point where they advocate against the literal wannabe dictator who actively undermines democracy. (To be clear Trump is the literal wannabe dictator who actively undermines democracy)

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        I read and watch legacy media, and I make sure to check independent journalists as well.

        I try to force myself to see what I am against and try to learn and understand why people hold that world view.

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          Ok. I assume legacy media is like Fox News sort of outlets?

          How do you make sure to check independent journalists? From what source(s)?

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            Legacy media is corporate media, but more precisely and to the best of my recalling knowledge, it points to news corporations that started in television and those that had printed newspapers.

            This is just a way to showcase how they have lost the trust of the working class and that most get thier news from social media sites and/or independent sources.

            I may be wrong, but that is a way I would describe it to people that have not heard of legacy media.


            Edit: forgot you had another questoion

            How do you make sure to check independent journalists? From what source(s)?

            Many independent journalists at one time were a part of legacy media.

            They are not only on social media and their stuff is shared and talked about by commentators, including political commentators and activists, they also have their own sites and communities online.

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          Nice!

          Great come back…

          You have proven my point that anyone that does not think or agree in the way you want them to, are labeled the boogeyman (Russia/China per se), so as a defense mechanism so you do not have to question your way of thinking or your view points.

          At least, that is one of many guesses of why people bring that up whenever they are just smearing and trying to just ‘dirting the waters’, as peeps say.

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      This person isn’t from the USA…seeing legacy media? No one talks like thos in the US.

      Russian or Chinese bot I bet

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          Nope, it looks like a killer whale to me…

          Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

          I disagree, but feel free to continue to think in that manner.

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        Edit: is -> is

        Oh, you have a reCAPTCHA that can check if people are ‘American’ or not?

        I implore you to really take a hard look at the way you think and come up with your talking points, because I do try to make it a point to do this when people call me out.

        Russian or Chinese bot I bet

        Sadly, you seem to just be another person that uses this excuse so that you don’t have to question your way of view or the way the working class is sees the world.

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      They are the choosen people

      You forgot this:

      ((( THE JOOOOOOOZZZ!!! )))

      BTW, we have a special mode for our space lasers for June:

      Enjoy your diapers! Happy Pride!💋🖖🏻❤️🏳️‍🌈

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      So if I follow you right you’re saying use Independent Media because they’ll allow people to just blatantly lie? Is that your argument? Cuz it’s not a very strong one.

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        I like to follow “media” outlets that parrot whateverTrump says. It makes me feel better about the lies I tell myself.

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      You make it sound like there is no way to verify stuff he says. Like he was just in an interview saying he never said “Lock her up!” - that other people chanted it but he never said it. There are lots of videos of him saying it, so it’s a verifiable lie. Of course the media should be able to call him on it.

      Just because it doesn’t fit your narrative, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

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        You are correct about the two duopoly apologetics.

        I should have made it more obvious I was talking about White Knight Syndrome, where ‘I’m not going to let you continue’ is used instead of pushing back with more information.

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          You don’t seem to have grasped the nuance of the conversation though.

          Pushing back with more information is only a viable strategy when all parties are participating in good faith.

          When the guest demonstrates a clear intent to spread obvious misinformation to further their own interests, discontinuing the conversation is the only recourse.

          To say the same thing another way, the host did rebut the guest, but the guest carried on without responding to the rebuttal, intent on using the show as a platform to spread misinformation.

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            You may be right.

            I know I can be wrong and I try to learn from mistakes or bad habits.

            Yes, communication can be hard and I and others may react with emotion or just to reply quickly…

            I know I do that, as well as other humans.

            When the guest demonstrates a clear intent to spread obvious misinformation to further their own interests, discontinuing the conversation is the only recourse.

            I do not agree with that point, but who knows how I would react. It is legacy media so sounds bites and time limitations might be the real cause for no pushback.

            To say the same thing another way, the host did rebut the guest, but the guest carried on without responding to the rebuttal, intent on using the show as a platform to spread misinformation.

            You are most likely correct, but I have little to no reason to be an apologetic to the duopoly,legacy media, or the owner class.

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              You are most likely correct, but I have little to no reason to be an apologetic to the duopoly,legacy media, or the owner class.

              “I didn’t watch the interview but I am certain that it was conducted improperly.
              Let me try to shame you all for an interview I didn’t watch but I know it was wrong because I heard it’s negative towards someone Donald Trump adjacent.”

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      I see a lot of your posts on my feed sometimes and you seem pretty left, what the heck is this about? You sound like a qultist here, what’s going on?

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        A bit of push back against the “I’m not going to let you continue” type of people, where they use it as a legit excuse instead of backing up their disagreement.

        I get reminded of White Knight Syndrome for those that use it.

        They are both apologetics for the duopoly in this segment at the end of the day.