• cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      I’d love to be able to “seed” the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I’d set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Yeah I’ve thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.

        How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?

        • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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          2 months ago

          I would hav thought stuff like Lemmy would have configurations to eg.: not allow to upload images locally, only hotlink.

          Anyway, an alternative is “zero knowledge” storage, where you don’t know what you are storing (hence, you can’t “choose” what to host or not host either). Another alternative is disjoint storage, where two different servers store different halves of a file (eg.: an Odd Bytes server and an Even Bytes server), but this means now it’s necessary to hit more servers to recover a file.

          But the sensible thing to do IMO is to apply “common carrier” concept. The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

            No but they are liable if there is lead in the water, even if they don’t know it.

        • eskimofry@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Probably arrange it such that not one person/server knows what the stored bytes are. There can be a server where the bytes/blocks get reconstructed where one can check for the bad stuff.

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            That doesn’t solve the cost problem. Now all the traffic is going through that intermediate server, and someone has to pay for that.

        • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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          There’s gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn’t be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don’t x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don’t know if any of that is built into the software.

          • SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world
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            Issue here is that what’s in a safe deposit box isn’t also being shared/distributed. It is locked away.

            If, however, they made copies of the contents of a box and put it in other boxes … and it came out somebody used that for CSAM then there probably would be some kind of liability.

            Besides CSAM there’s also copyrighted material, etc which section 230 kind of covers but even then gets tricky since there’s a duty to respond to DMCA takedowns in order to get safe harbor protections.

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    I’d donate a few dollars a month. Newgrounds is a great content creation space. I still play games there from time to time. The Mario 63 game is off the wall. Dead Estate is also a fantastic retro style shooter like the ones I remember from my childhood. I think places like this need to survive.

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      Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.

      Granted part of that is there hasn’t been any real pressure on it, but still.

      Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It’s this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.

  • Mars2k21@sh.itjust.works
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    Newgrounds would be awesome in the Fediverse tbh, would bring so much content (beyond politics and news).

    Image hosting seems to be super problematic with activity pub, especially with something pf Newgrounds’ size. I’m super invested in this, can’t wait to see where it’ll go.

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    2 months ago

    Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.

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    2 months ago

    Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.

    (Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)