I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.
Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a “Skip”/“Don’t remind me again”. Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I’d expect not to be bothered again. It’s really a built in ad more then anything.
2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)
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So many comments shitting here and not giving helpful advice at all, so so fucking stupid. The best way to get ahead of this would be when the next time this pops up, press Shift + f10 and then type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” easy and simple, takes only a few seconds and makes everything more seamless, such as no one drive bullshit etc…
Easy and simple
Dont forget to shit on linux afterwards for how difficult it is
Honestly I find constantly having to keep on top of disabling questionable windows features and bloat (knowing I’ve definitely missed something) more difficult and exhausting than just using linux. Linux feels way more “easy and simple” to me than windows ever has been.
I really didn’t think anything about linux before but the number of people on lemmy being so annoying about linux just makes me really dislike it.
Right? The top comments being people commenting just to laugh at the guy using windows on a work computer is grossing me out. They’re like the loud vegans for computers. Just like veganism I agree with a lot of it but the fan base (for lack of a better term atm sorry) is SO aggressively off-putting lol
Then delete system32 folder?
What are these instructions actually doing?
Idk how it works but if you type this on the console you will never get this window again.
press Shift + f10 and then type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” easy and simple, takes only a few seconds
Not picking on you, that is actually really good advice and a neat shortcut I’ll be trying myself. I just think it’s funny all the reddit threads regarding Linux usage, someone will pop in with a simple commands to get whatever the user wants done quickly (Ex: Open the Console and type “sudo apt update” then “sudo apt upgrade” and you’ll be good!) and they get shit on with comments like “OMG! You have to Open a terminal to do anything! This is why Windowz rules and Linux is for fanboy dorks!!”
Btw, I dual boot.
I understand. I use Linux with dual boot myself and I know how great and free it feels to just use a terminal for everything. However, I cannot count how many times I have been frustrated when something just doesn’t work. Some software that doesn’t exist in apt is can be hard to install sometimes if you have to compile it yourself. And if you want to delete something that you didn’t install via apt?? Good luck with that. Linux doesn’t exist without its own problems. The use cases for both windows and Linux are very different. It doesn’t fit everybody
I believe this method was blocked. But it’s also not what the screen shot is. This is an update screen.
It worked on my machine. Also, why would they block it?? This specific command was definitely added by some Microsoft engineer, and not just for shits and giggles. There must have been some reason to add it in the first place, and certainly no reason to block it.
Sorry, missed your reply. I run the setup for Windows on a lot of computers. Last time I tried that command it wasn’t working. I used to be able to start the setup and once you got to the point of needing to sign in to a Microsoft account you could skip it. They removed that. Then this command you are talking about worked for a bit. Then removing the ethernet cable worked for a while, Microsoft closed that too. Currently I connect the machines to a network and attempt to log into an account, but mistype the password. This will give an error and allow a local account. Unfortunately these are machines for sale, so I can’t use a Microsoft account like they want. It’s a whole “thing”. However, if it’s your own machine, use Rufus to create a boot disk that will bypass the Microsoft account requirement.
Why would they block it? Because they want everyone to use a Microsoft account, and they have been getting more and more aggressive about it.
Edit: forgot to mention again, OP’s post image is from an update message and not initial Win 11 install. The command to skip the sign on is for OOBE, “out of box experience”. Aka initial setup.
For this screen not to come back, Settings notifications turn off the last three checkboxes
I’ll give that a try, thank you.
How did you learn this? Serious question, as I probably will be using Windows at whatever job I get. A huge part of what has made Linux so easy to learn is that there’s always documentation. There’s no secrets, even if it might be a lot of reading. Everything I learned about Windows I either bumbled my way into it or learned from someone else who was taught.
To be honest, you just have to Google things that you really want to fix. Genuinely just ask it how to make simple things simpler and you will find so much helpful stuff out there. If you feel some discomfort while using windows, know that there’s always a way to make something easier and simpler, you just have to find it
To be clear, I’ve been using Windows since I was literally in diapers [3]. Only this summer did I take the plunge and actually start using Linux as a daily driver. I generally know my way around a Windows system because of Googling things I don’t know.
My concern is because I have been using Windows as a “home” user, e.g. on non-enterprise systems, there’s going to be a whole bunch of stuff that I don’t know that I have no chance of finding unless I happen to know an experienced sysadmin.
IMO, Googling [1] things is often how I solve computer problems, but it’s a very strange way of working if you think about it. Shouldn’t our software tell us how to use it? At the bare minimum, software designed for use by the general public, including those who aren’t familiar with computers
It’s a bit of a strange response, “go to company A for information about company B’s products”. And yet, it is the response I unfortunately have to choose time and time again because Microsoft is too protective of their secrets, including apparently how to use their OS. Microsoft, who as a reminder is a business trying to convince me to keep buying their product, should be the primary source of information about their product.
Microsoft does have some online support, but they don’t have it at the level of detail that Linux does. What has really amazed me about Linux is that the various developers actually tell you how to use their software [2]. If there’s something not in the manual, they probably don’t know enough about it to have finished the documentation. In those scenarios, you can go make an issue on GitHub. As complicated as Linux has been to learn, it’s been a lot less “Google [1] it” and a lot more “read the docs”.
If you feel some discomfort while using Windows, know that there’s always a way to make something easier and simpler, you just have to find it
Well…no, actually. For example, if I want to replace the user interface, you cannot do that. You can change it cosmetically, and there are a few registry entries you can fiddle with, but if you want to throw out the whole thing and use a completely different desktop environment, you’re out of luck. I installed my copy of Debian with KDE Plasma, but I also installed LXDE as an option for the rare cases when I need all 16GB of my RAM. I also tried out XFCE and LXQT to give them their fair shake. The default for Debian is actually GNOME, which I knew from prior experience was not for me. Actually, I wouldn’t use a system where the only option is GNOME, so the freedom to choose a desktop environment (or none at all; e.g. window managers or the command line for the brave) was a precondition to my adoption of Linux.
Every single part of my system can be swapped out for something else. Even the kernel need not be “pure” Linux. For example, I do a lot of real-time audio computing, so I’ve been “shopping for” the best kernel for real-time audio. There are a few patched kernels specifically for real-time applications, although the default Linux kernel is quite good.
This is far from the only area where Windows locks you into a choice. Actually, it’s a lot worse than that; Windows (more accurately Microsoft) continues to lock me into choices because I have to limit my choices to those that work with Windows installations. They could add Linux compatibility to their systems (because the whole ecosystem is open source, they don’t need to reverse-engineer anything; just copy the Linux stuff!), but they choose not to do so, and instead insist on proprietary formats.
[1] I don’t use Google search anymore. IMO the only use case for Google search is when you are somehow required to use it. In the example above, I would never allow company A to be Google, because based on Google’s history it is clear that Google ought not exist. I often allow company A to be DuckDuckGo or an amalgamation of stripped results from SearXNG, but even then I think that the usage of company B’s products should be the domain of company B.
[2] It’s not perfect, but systematically it seems like more than an attempt has been made to document the various FOSS software components. For example, some of the more obscure KDE software have holes in the docs, which I have actually been running up against in the past few days. The rest of the KDE software has excellent documentation, and if you’re a Plasma user, it’s probably already on your computer. Remember, this is coming from a largely volunteer development force; compare that with the power and professional workforce of Microsoft.
[3] I have worked and played in every non-enterprise Windows OS from Windows 95 to Windows 10. I have used Windows 11 a handful of times but I’m not very familiar with it, besides the baseline familiarity that comes from working with NT systems in general.
What’s your point here? If you want to argue with me about semantics then I absolutely could not care less about it. Yes of course you can’t change shit, because windows is designed this way. It’s made this way for people who don’t know how to do things be able to easily Google their problem and find a step by step solution that is almost certain to work since windows ui doesn’t change a lot. Also, at this point googling is a popular verb which means “searching shit on the internet”. Use whatever browser you want, I use brave search and searx from my distro. Congratulations on successfully shitting on windows, like everybody else in this thread.
Of course Linux is better for most intents and purposes, but that’s entirely not the fucking point here. The point here is how to use windows better? With all the shit Microsoft does? And the answer is you search it on the internet, it’s just how it is and complaining about it and saying Linux does it better does not change anything.
If you have a problem in windows, for example one of the things I was really annoyed about in win11 was that whenever I searched something on the task bar, an internet result would pop up that will open bing on edge. I didn’t want that so I googled it (searched on the internet with brave search) and turns out that you can add a registry my that can disable all web searches from the taskbar! So Yay one annoyance fixed. There are hundreds of things like that which you can just search and figure out a way to disable a shit Microsoft thing or bypass it.
What I had originally meant was that in general, you can control a lot behind the scenes in windows, even if you can’t see it up front. You can shit on it all you want but being toxic to people and telling them to install Linux is obviously not the way to go. Gatekeeping is for idiots. Use what you want to use, do what you think is best for you, and I do what is best for me. From time to time I do use windows to play some games that don’t work on Linux yet, or use some software that doesn’t support Linux and I don’t want to spend hours trying to figure out how to install there. It’s efficient for me and that’s how I keep it.
Windows is terrible at a lot of things, and Linux is terrible at a lot of things too but those things are completely different and it is no use to compare as everyone’s needs are different. There is no one size fits all, there never will be.
I wonder whether the developers who wrote this script, did it in order to avoid these annoying messages by themselves
Yeah just a bunch of Linux nerds on their high horse feeling smug. This attitude actively pushes people away from your platform, not towards it. If you want more people to use Linux the first step is NOT acting like a smug dick about it.
Exactly, the one thing you cannot do is force someone to move to Linux. They eventually do it on their own when they get tired of being shit on by Microsoft, or just see in general that yeah! This specific thing is gonna make my life so much easier! That’s why I did it and I understand why people wouldn’t want to switch to it, there’s nothing that we can do about it
thanks!
Remind me in 3 days. That shit should be against the law. There should be a don’t bug me ever again option.
“Why are you upset? We gave you a choice.”
Go to Settings > System > Notifications. Turn off the last three check boxes. This screen won’t come back.
Through the door with the sign “Beware of the Leopard”.
That’s actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!
ah yes the non-idealistic idealist, i always admired your kind
Windows is bullshit
We can bitch all we want but their dollars still go up
Laughing from Debian
I always laugh that the option not to get Microsoft 365 is just “Stay Basic”
That means Microsoft 365 is an acid. Because avoiding acids is how you stay basic.
The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about all this is we pay for Windows, I have 3 licenses for Windows 11 and it’s gotten so annoying that I don’t even use them anymore. I’ve been a Linux user for quite a while already and between Microsoft’s doing more and more data collection, and more ads, I just walked away from it a couple years ago. Fortunately, I was in a position where I could do so. I feel bad for folks that must use Windows for this or that and can’t escape it.
You just have to pick your poison. Windows is easy to use. I don’t want a walled garden ios machine, nor do I want to spend 2 hours on a forum trying to troubleshoot every little thing on Linux.
I have used both Windows and Linux extensively, and although Linux used to be a serious amount of nonsense to get stuff to work, it’s not like that any more. I spend similar amounts of time troubleshooting on each. Help for Linux sometimes is better. If you end up on the Microsoft answers forum, good luck to you, because it means the real answer is buried somewhere on the Internet, if it’s there at all.
Agree , ubuntu, mint and popos are just works distros with max number of apps available , flatpak ( tho controversial in the linux community) has also given good option for just works distros to be user friendly ! My non technical family members have been using linux for years now without any issues !
That’s not really how Linux is now. At least not Ubuntu varieties
If I had a dollar for everytime someone said Linux isn’t bad now is be living on Mars.
What you’re really saying is your needs are simple and you’ve managed to get what you need.
This does not translate to everyone as others might have more complex needs than you.
TrackIR is still a nightmare on Linux, and searching for help with that reveals about 10 situations where no one got a good result and one person who seemingly got lucky.
Another issue is MS Office. Formatting and macros get broken by FOSS alternatives so don’t even go there.
There are at least a dozen more issues (NVIDIA, difficult hardware etc …).
Suffice to say everytime someone pops up saying it works now just starts looking silly.
Until we get native support and better documentation and testing Linux is still an outlier for anything more than basic productivity or gaming in a bubble.
maybe I’m naive but I have a hard time believing msoffice macros are a major part of most business’ workflows. any serious application is going to be working in a scripting language from a database. if you’re still dependent on Ms office macros your business needed to retool a decade ago.
I can’t speak to the other ”problems” you detailed, but if the msoffice complaint is any indication, I strongly recommend you find a new company and fast.
All it has to do is affect one person that needs that feature and it’s a no go for that person.
It is rare for me but it is still an issue.
Formatting being broken is an even worse issue and happens far too often.
Lotta words to say you support windows and fear other oses
comments like these are why the linux userbase is both its best and worst feature.
I’m not sure who’s more obnoxious, a vegan or a linux user.
It’s not surprising that someone who clearly hates vegans would say the same shit about Linux. You’re basically the type that’s mad at people who think. How many times have you called someone a “college boy”? A non zero amount I’d imagine
I don’t hate vegans, I hate the sense of superiority that majority (but not all) of them seem to have. Instead of trying to find common ground and talking about the issue, they alienate themselves from others. You’re exhibiting exactly that behavior.
And for what it’s worth, I don’t think I’ve ever used the phrase “college boy”.
As a Linux user I can tell you that I run into plenty of issues no matter what distro I use. I still prefer it over windows.
Exactly this. Tried Linux mint a while but everything was a hastle for me as a new user. Every program I wanted to install had a different method to do so. I ended up not much using the laptop where I installed it on. A pity, I love alternative software.
Windows is nagware now. Microsoft dared to imagine an entire OS on the Winrar model.
Its actually worse than that. I PAID for Windows. If I paid for WinRAR they would stop.
Well WinRAR only nags you when you use it, unlike windows that is always running and almost always nagging.
If you stop using Windows, it also stops nagging you.
I have but for this PC, and only due to game pass not working nice on Linux (I like to play games with old friends far away)
I understand. If you don’t already know it, you can look up here if your games would work on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/
Don’t you compare windows to that time honoured and helpful software. WinRAR knows when to quit, and is free
It’s time to come back to the light. I’m soon making the switch to Linux for good. I was waiting for gaming to become much more accessible… But I was messing up before because I was downloading the wrong drivers.
I’ve been learning how to use it by keeping my main machine on win10 while my laptop is on pop os. Using that to test my games and learn.
I’ve been using it long enough that once I get a good break from life, I’ll be going thru the steps to switch my gaming PC over.
What I’m probably going to do is reinstall windows 11, complete updates, run de-bloater. Then install Ubuntu along side windows (super easy) and disable Ubuntu Telemetry. Use Ubuntu as primary for just about anything, have a win VM if I can use it or worst case Windows still available if I absolutely need it.
I wanted to try Quebes but my device isn’t compatible. Having Win installed, I could use it strictly for gaming too if I wanted.
I wanted to try Quebes but my device isn’t compatible.
Really? AFAIK the only thing special it requires that a normal OS doesn’t is virtualization, and any reasonably-modern x86 CPU should support that just fine. What does your hardware lack?
Hardware virtualization is often disabled in the bios by default and probably just needs to be enabled. Called something like AMD-VT or INTEL-Vd
AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics 3.80 GHz 16.0 GB DDR5 @ 5600 With the GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU
I ensured bios were setup, attempted to install and it didn’t even show an error when selecting to install or live test and install. The device just restarted and nothing.
I’m actually going to give it another try, I made a fresh USB for it, it’s worth a fair attempt. I know the GPU is gonna probably be unusable, but I was looking at Qubes for 80% of my tasks.
If you’re going to reinstall windows, try installing tiny11: https://github.com/ntdevlabs/tiny11builder.
I’ve heard a lot of good things about it, consider this.
Nice, I’ll check it out! I only plan on still having it installed because some exams I take might not work in a VM. Literally the only reason I plan to dual boot.
Good for you. Keep working at it. I’m not sure what usecase you have for your computer, but I am very sure you’ll find a solution or alternative to all your problems.
This kind of shit is what made me switch to Linux. I just didn’t feel like I owned my computer anymore.
Remember, there are always alternatives…
Laughing from a PopOS Virtual Machine (I’m getting my AMD GPU soon, I’ll switch over fully then I promise!).
That choice between Remind me in 3 days or Accept shows the compete contempt they have for the user.
Also that idiotic “let’s finish setting up your computer”, as if Microsoft is your friend helping you out.
Guys you need to stop using this software. Why do you think so many fan boys are yelling about linux all the time? Because it’s fantastic these days.
