https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/10/public-officials-law-agencies-flooded-with-threats-over-reports-of-wolf-torture/

Sublette County Sheriff K.C. Lehr has received more than 7,000 emails about a Wyoming man who reportedly captured and tormented a wolf before killing it, he told Cowboy State Daily on Wednesday.

Some of those are threats.

Lehr said people in his office, as well as Sublette County and Wyoming Game and Fish Department personnel, have been receiving threats — including death threats — stemming from Daniel, Wyoming, man Cody Roberts’ reported capture, torment and killing of a wild wolf in late February.

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    6 months ago

    Yea, fuck him - he’s just an ass.

    People who grew up with him can probably attest to this.

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      Sure, but I hope we can all agree that directly threatening this guy with death is not an acceptable response.

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        Scum like him deserves permanent suffering, and any piece of trash defending him deserves at least a tenth as much.

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          It’s not about what he deserves, it’s about how we choose to punish him. He probably thought the wolf “deserved” torture. You want to stoop to his level?

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              No we didn’t. We were at war with them, and killed just enough of them to force their surrender. Thereafter the remainder were not rooted out and murdered, although many were tried for their crimes. Many fled and were more or less allowed to do so. Some were adopted by the US in operation paperclip.

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      Oh yeah. He’s been a bully for a looooong time to be smiling that hard in that photo, possibly even a sociopath.

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    Really disappointed death threats completely took over the focus of the actual criminal. They’re really just using it as a misdirection here.

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    Animal torture is really common trait in psychopathy.

    The guy needs to be detained and evaluated whether he would get a prison sentence or sent to a psych ward. He, however, will probably just get 6-12mo without any evaluation and likely continue; just behind closed doors next time.

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          Cody Roberts is 42 years old today because Cody’s birthday is on 09/19/1981. Cody Roberts currently lives in Daniel, WY; in the past Cody has also lived in Pinedale WY. In the past, Cody has also been known as Cody Joe Roberts and Cody J Roberts. Background details that you might want to know about Cody include: ethnicity is Caucasian, whose political affiliation is currently a registered Republican; and religious views are listed as Christian.

          ShockedPikachu.jpg

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      I object to this characterisation because animal torture is also a really common trait in neurotypicals. There are even some cultures in the west that eat babies because they say a baby sheep’s corpse tastes better.

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    I don’t believe in hell. But for this mother fucker, I’m willing to make an exception and hope with all my heart that I’m wrong.

  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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    Soo… are y’all vegan or hypocrits?

    Edit: So hypocrits. Got it. Bet the fake outrage about a suffering animal felt good tho huh?

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        Yeah, let’s call a truce. How about we stop calling your actions wrong for a month, and all of you stop killing animals for a month?

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          How about instead you just keep your beliefs to yourself and stop telling other what to do.

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          Imagine you’re about to eat an ice-cream. You see a kid drowning in a pool. You could save him, but instead you choose to eat your ice cream. You put short term pleasure before saving a child’s life. Evil, right?

          Now imagine that you can’t see the kid. You know he’s going to die, but instead of donating a bit of money to a charity, you buy that ice cream, drink that fancy frappucino, buy that t-shirt or overpriced gadget you didn’t actually need to buy. You put a short term endorphin rush above saving a child’s life.

          This is you. This is everyone. Humans are all evil to a degree. We are all hypocrites to a degree. We allow that kid to die, those workers to get abused, those animals to suffer. The only excuse we have is that we are animals and that we largely act on instinct, even if we rationalise our choices afterwords, often telling ourselves we’re not bad people.

          Once you accept that basic fact, mostly because life experience has forced you to come to terms with your flaws, you hopefully become more humble. You gain character, wisdom, and honesty. And here’s a silver lining: once you realise that you’re also deeply flawed and approach fellow humans with humility, you often end up becoming more convincing.

          Of course, the first step is to accept that convincing people to be less evil, is more important than vanity and holding to the idea that you’re somehow better than them.

          Here’s Norm McDonald telling a joke about hypocrisy:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4

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            Once you accept that basic fact, mostly because life experience has forced you to come to terms with your flaws, you hopefully become more humble.

            Right, it’s clearly the people who kill animals for their (taste) pleasure that are humble, wise and honsest lmao.

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                While I’m not a vegan, I have a tremendous amount of respect for your position here and I absolutely love your way of explaining things. You exemplify your philosophy very well and this is refreshing to see.

                Thank you for the work you’re doing to calm the waters.

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            Just because all humans are flawed doesn’t mean that we should just ignore everything around us and accepts that the world is evil, when simple actions such as not consuming animal products does make a difference.

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              Oh, of course. But once you accept that all humans are flawed, you’re more likely to empathize with people who make poor choices, relate to them, and become more convincing.

              So for example, you don’t call people hypocrites and a murderers, which will inevitably cause them to become defensive and double down. Especially in a conversation where people are already expressing that they dissaprove of animal abuse. Instead you say something like:

              “Same here. Animal suffering also makes me sad, and I couldn’t help but think that I was part of that. I slowly transitioned to eating no meat a while back. But I know it’s hard to make changes. If anyone wants tips, just ask. No judgement.”

              Or perhaps:

              “Yeah. Food’s really becoming expensive. One thing that does help, is that I eat vegetarian curries. They cost less to make and it’s not that hard. I found this cool recipe and use a rice cooker so I can take care of the kids while it cooks.”

              I mean, imagine people who own a fairphone and buy only fair trade chocolate, went around calling the rest of us cunts. They might have a point, but it really wouldn’t help them win the argument.

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                I agree that this approach is definitely the better one, but I’m pretty sure that any comment regarding veganism under a post such as this one would be met with hostility, because most people simply don’t make the connection and think it’s just random vegans preaching wherever they can.

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                  Ah, yes. But here’s the thing.

                  If you make a polite and reasonable comment about veganism and it’s met with hostility, you’re more likely to come across as the good guy and those attacking you come across as arseholes. People reading the exchange are more likely to think that the guy defending veganism or animal rights may have a point.

                  If you come in all guns blazing, and attack people, people are just as likely to think you’re the arsehole.

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    I dunno I wonder how much of this thread believes in rehabilitative justice when it’s convenient for them to do so, but will then turn around and advocate for extreme eye for an eye style punitive, retributive justice whenever it strikes their moral fancy. If it was seen as socially acceptable to go to the coliseum and see people thrown off of large wooden towers, or to go and look at the gallows, I can guarantee we’d still probably do it.

    I also don’t think this act requires psychopathy, or else you’d probably have to classify like, every teenage boy who kicks over an anthill or tries to shoot a squirrel with a bb gun as a psychopath. No, I think probably the fact that he paraded it through the town and bragged about it is the biggest indication that, much like the people in this thread, he thought he was doing something morally justified and cool.

    Maybe finally I’d just like to ask the question of, if you don’t actually want this guy to be horribly tortured and killed, or become some sort of adverse strain on the medical industry, become disabled, dependant on medical care (really revealing of your opinions of the elderly and disabled there, guys), then why are you calling for these things? These things which you do not actually believe should happen? Probably it’s because your brain’s been rotted by social media which I can appreciate, but still, I must chastize you for it, because when I do it, it’s morally justified and cool. While I don’t think that “death threats” from random people usually carry with them the same kind of weight as when political pundits call for the deaths of a given population or even a single person, and it’s unlikely that this guy actually gets tortured with all the fixin’s and trappin’s of a cut off your toes style collections agency, I still think it’s pretty morally repugnant and obviously unproductive to send this guy hate mail. At least package some ricin in it or something, if you really care, c’mon.

    I don’t actually care if you go scoop out this guy’s eyes with pomegranate spoons or take your toenail clippers to his teeth or whatever, or maybe like. Leave him in the unrefrigerated milk and honey bath for several weeks. You know, lest I be accused of being an animal torturer, or complicit in animal torture, which, really beating the witch hunt allegations there, Simone. No, I don’t really care about that shit, what I do mostly care about is that it’s fucking annoying to see a bunch of presumably men but also women who are unable to experience emotional distress without wanting to call for an eye gougathon. It’s okay to be sad and kind of mad that this shitlord is basically going to get away with this, as it would seem. I don’t think it’s healthy or productive to vent your emotions at this random person, though.

    I could also maybe call out the “well, are you guys vegan?” hypocrisy that everyone else has already done, but I’m not a vegan and I don’t care because I don’t have morals, so I’ll leave that to them.

    Thank you for your time.

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      And you wouldn’t classify a kid shooting a squirrel for fun as psychopathy? It doesn’t necessarily have to mean anything but I’d definitely see it as a warning sign. Killing anything just for fun the fun of it seems weird to me.

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        Probably not. Teenagers are still developing their brains, empathy, etc.

        Some teenagers are taught that hunting is a valuable skill and want to practice it. Some just want to use their toy and don’t actually consider the full implications. Some might have been taught that squirrels are vermin.

        All those things are more likely than the teen shooting the squirrel because they enjoy causing pain. Probably the squirrels POV never even shadowed their thoughts.

        tl;dr teenagers are stupid and do stupid shit without thinking about what they’re doing.

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        and you wouldn’t classify … as psychopath*ic

        No, I wouldn’t, for the same reason you instantly stated after your question.

        Warning signs are warning signs. They are not indicative of anything other than a possibility.

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      dude holy shit this post is like if you asked chatgpt to write a dissertation on this shit in a sociological tone, but without fucking punctuating it.

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    I mean, I get it, it’s a wolf and can pose a danger to livestock and or people. But if you are aiming to kill it, then just shoot it in the head for a clean kill, if you miss the clean kill get up and put it out of it’s misery.

    What demented kind of fuck gets pleasure doing this. The poor animal is just doing it’s thing and being what nature made it. It didn’t have a choice to be born a wolf instead of a Chihuahua.

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      Using guns to kill predators is a serious skill issue. We gotta use spears and bows like our ancestors of old did. /S

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    It was not fucking necessary to include that photo.

    Also it’s insanely fucked up if they never go beyond threats.

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      Except without the photo, people would keep scrolling past. This is one of the few images I’ve seen in a long time that makes me actually angry. I hate having seen it, I feel for that poor wolf.

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    I hope this scumbag hits his funny-bone and jams his toe. I can’t support calls for violence, but I wouldn’t be sad if he stepped in front of a bus. Or if he got mauled by a pack of wolves.

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        I don’t condone violence even when I think it’s justified. If you harmed my family, I would consider violence justified (depending on the harm). I still don’t condone it. Acting out of emotion is not civilized. I must take the higher road and let rational minds punish you. Sadly, that’s often a pipe dream, hence mob justice, which again I don’t condone.

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          don’t condone violence

          Yes you do. You just like to hide it. If you’ve ever paid taxes, from city to federal, you have directly funded violence, probably unjustified. I’m going to guess youre not on a tax protest. If you use an electronic device, and replace it any time you don’t absolutely have to, you condone violence. If you wear clothes bought from a store, you condone violence.

          Its not a bad ideal to look towards, arguably necessary for a civilized world, but making it myopic just restricts solutions and disempowers those with less power to launder obfuscate and manufacture consent for their violence. It keeps us from a world where its actually achievable.

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            I would agree to a world where we paid more for our goods and services so that they could be ethically generated. Accepting that I live in a world where my doing that has very little actual benefit to the laborers in other parts of the world is not the same as condoning violence. I want all violence in all forms to halt. I just know that there’s very little I can do beyond a small bubble. Also, don’t tell me what my values are. It’s presumptuous and shitty.

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        Simply the fact that he’s also a living being. If we’re going to make a point, while trying to maintain that we’re doing better than him, it helps if we’re actually doing better than him.

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          Covid cells are alive. I’m pretty okay fucking them up. Bed bugs are alive, I’d very much like them to go extinct.

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              Dudes totally human, unless he’s a fascist, which we don’t know (and honestly I’d be willing to assume for most shittiness in bumfuck nowhere, but fascists tend to like dogs) Argument here is about whether life is inherently precious. Bed bugs and covid are my argument for ‘no it’s not and you already agree’.

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    Don’t we torture like a billion pigs every day?

    You guys will dance to anything.