This is dope.

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    As a straight dude, my first internal knee-jerk reaction was “this is such a stupid solution to a stupid problem”, but then my mental “Don’t be an asshat because not everybody is like you” guard rail kicked in.

    Clearly this is a product for a market of people that it works for and I’m happy for them. Enjoy your neat keyboard thing, long nailed peeps.

    • you’re absolutely right. this is a stupid solution for a stupid problem. But you’re also right that this is a product for a special subset of people that need this and whom this works for.

      Both can be true.

      That’s the nice thing about capitalism (free market economics actually): You don’t have a authority that decides what is useful and useless, what gets produced and what doesn’t. Because in the End, everything is useless. I have a robotvac because I’m too lazy to vacuum myself. Stupid and Lazy. I have a Vacuum cleaner because I’m too lazy to use a Broom. Stupid and Lazy.

      So yes, it’s both. Stupid solution to a stupid problem. But it’s also a great product that solves a problem that a subset of our population has and therefore useful.

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        *want

        People want this, they don’t need it. Because nobody needs to have nails like that - they choose to. If they want to look silly, that’s their prerogative, but let’s not call it anything other than a personal choice and not a necessity.

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          But if you have the nails, then you need something to make it easier to type, assuming your job involves a lot of typing. Just because the need was created by fulfilling a want doesn’t make it less of a need, because at the end of the day, anything could be reduced down to wants instead of needs, and that’s not helpful.

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            Except they don’t. Example, my fiancee is a fine dining chef, and as such has to keep her fingernails trimmed pretty short. If she decided to do the long nail thing, she’d be told to trim them. If you want to wear a party dress or beach attire to your office job, guess what, you can’t. If you wear metal jewelry and are an electrician, that stuff stays in your locker or home, same for food service.

            Utility > vanity. If your aesthetic choices inhibit your ability to do your job, then you need to make different choices. This isn’t an accommodation for a disability or religious thing. If you want your appearance to get in the way of your work and it doesn’t impact your work, then you don’t need accommodation. If it’s uncomfortable then that’s your own damn fault.

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        Exactly. There are a ton of stupid products out there, and ecosystems around those stupid products, and I think that’s awesome. Variety is the spice of life after all. For example:

        • self-driving cars - if we had properly designed cities and infrastructure, we wouldn’t need cars in the first place
        • shampoos and conditioners for damaged hair - only needed because we wreck our hair with bleaches and dyes
        • waist trainers/corsets - only needed because we’re lethargic and eat too much

        Yet each of those has facilitated variety. Cars are an expression of what we value, hair styles are a huge part of our identities, and plus-sized product lines can build confidence and have created a market all their own. I certainly won’t ever understand a ton of the products that exist, but I like that those products exist, because it means that there’s a ton of variety in how we live our lives.

        So yeah, keep making weird solutions to unnecessary problems. But at the same time, let’s try to do it in a way that doesn’t destroy our planet.

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      It’s a pink tax but if someone is rocking fake nails why not double dip. Practicality is not their deciding factor.

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    Typing with long nails is the embodiment of “beauty is pain.”

    The pain is real, but the beauty is subjective.

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        I will never forget when I had to help a coworker with her laptop, she had long nails that had worn grooves in her keyboard keys.

        She typed on her nails, the sound it made was terrible.

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      It’ was a status thing. Those with manual labor jobs usually can’t have long nails, so long nails means they’re above manual labor. So the rich in the past did that, and now everybody wants to do that so and it becomes a beauty thing.

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    I sometimes have medium length nails (3-5 mm past the fingertip), though I tend to just grow my own out, and I do it entirely for myself. I have a bunch of different kinds of nail polish and stencils for making cool patterns and it satisfies my inner elementary school librarian urge to dress up for even very minor holidays.

    People have come up to me and told me that my nails are too long for them to find attractive, which is a bizarre non sequitur imo. I don’t know why the assumption is that any self-decoration is intended as a sexual signal: my ideal nail-based interaction is that a little kid asks about them and I get to tell them about Arbor Day or national soup day or something.

    Sometimes they make life more difficult, and then I either find workarounds (opening pull tabs with a spoon, for example) or cut them, depending on how much time I have and how much I like my current nails.

    I get that they’re not for everyone, but I like them, so I wear them. It’s okay if others don’t like them, they don’t have to wear them.

    • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      It blows my mind when people do that.

      “Hey, the way that you styled yourself makes me not want to have sex with you.”

      “Uhhh… Cool?”

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        And there’s a lot of people in the world that effectively get told this all their life.

        Some for things that aren’t even their choice.

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    Jesus these comments scream basement dweller. You don’t have to like what someone does with their own body to accept it. It doesn’t hurt you so don’t worry about it. God forbid people have some self expression

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      I accept that people sometimes keep their nails long. That acceptance comes with a caveat that I will not be eating anything handled by hands with long nails.

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      It doesn’t hurt you so don’t worry about it

      Eh, not so sure. Beauty standards propagate, and pressure to conform to those standards is real.
      That’s just how fashion works. In this case fashion requires disabling a functional part of your body. It’s at least a bit icky.

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        It’s not though. It’s got advantages, but typing isn’t one of them. I can open stuff peel based way better etc.

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          I really only need like 2 or 3 mm of extra nail on one thumb to open oranges and grapefruits perfectly fine. Anything longer than that and it becomes unwieldy and unhygienic.

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            On the contrary, since growing my nails out my nails have been way more clean. There is an awkward period between no nails and long nails where stuff gets caught underneath, but once you grow them out (only two weeks or so), they’re perfectly clean because there’s just more space underneath and nowhere for gunk to get caught as the angle is wider.

            my nails, for reference (sorry my power is out

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      God forbid people have some self expression

      They do indeed forbid it.

      10 "If you go to battle against your enemies, and the LORD your God delivers them into your control, you may take some prisoners captive. 11 If you see among the prisoners a beautiful woman and you desire her, then you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her to your house, but shave her head and trim her nails

      Deuteronomy 21

      Oh man, religions are batshit crazy.

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        if the LORD your God delivers them into your control

        AKA feel free to murder someone then fuck their wife (assuming you’re Jewish, of course)

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    Honestly-I always wondered how in the hell women with nails even just a little bit long typed comfortably on a keyboard. I figured it was either a) not a big deal or b) a super pain in the arse and another example of the world (for whatever reason) not making a simple product to solve a simple issue (like bandaids that match people’s skin color for example).

    Now I know! :)

    Phones must be a bitch as well…. The solution to that might be a bit harder to pull off…

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      I’ve always wondered about wiping one’s ass. Seems like you’d want a nail brush handy to wash up every time.

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        Which part of the world are you from? Here we use toilet paper to wipe (but we still wash our hands afterwards). I haven’t really heard of someone using their nails before, that sounds kinda weird.

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    I guess a mechanical keyboard with round ketcaps would do the trick as well. Not the same budget though…

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      Actually, my giant mechanical Blackwidow keyboard is way easier to use than my laptop when my nails are long.

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        How can it be easier to use keys with traditional keyswitches? You’d have more key travel.

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          I’ve switched out keycaps to make them comfortable for me. You can customise them. I find it very hare to type on a laptop keyboard for a long time and it fucks up my posture.

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            Hmm. Interesting.

            If you don’t mind me asking, could you describe what alternate keycaps were used? Like, taller keycaps in the front, shorter in the back? Like, I still think that the amount of keytravel would be a negative, but maybe the issue is that the long nails descend into the keyboard given the normal position of a hand typing, and basically changing the angle improves that.

            If that’s the case, I’m wondering whether maybe it’d be possible to change the angle of the keyboard as a whole. Like, either use an external keyboard propped up differently, tilting away from the user, or a laptop with the front part of the base shimmed up to tilt away from the user.

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              I use softer keycaps, some are resin! I also have the back propped up like you mentioned with the built in lifts. I also have carpel tunnel so I don’t want to cram my hands into a small space and it’s OK to be slow sometimes. And a good wrist rest is key.

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                I also have the back propped up like you mentioned with the built in lifts

                Ah hah!

                Yeah, there are some ergo keyboards that have that “reverse tilt” built in. They’re aimed more at being easier on the wrist than at trying to permit for long nails, but they do exist.

                e.g.:

                https://matias.ca/ergopro/pc/

                I also have carpel tunnel

                That’d be an argument for a keyboard, like, a mechanical one where you don’t bottom out the keys on press, and then training yourself to not bottom them out, which is a big argument mechanical keyboard fans have for theirs versus rubber dome keyboards. And you need a fair bit of key travel for that, yeah. Hmm.

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                  I’ve convinced some if my girlfriends to switch as they have white versions and Blackwidows are fairly cheap on Ebay (£50-75). :) They like them as they’re heavy writers.

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      And? Nearly everything is a self inflicted problem. You could just lay down and stop bothering, so why don’t you do that?

      Do I like long nails? Hell no. Does it affect me if somebody buys this keyboard to type and have long nails? Also hell no.

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      Ergonomic chairs are also a solution to an often self-inflicted problem. Mainly doing all kinds of things to your body when you’re young that you don’t realize you’ll regret when you’re older.

      Are ergonomic chairs a bad thing?

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    Long nails can look pretty, and while I’m sure this would help people with long nails, I think it would just give me an RSI or just be differently frustrating.

    No thanks. I’ll paint my short nails so I can—you know—use my hands. And that’s free.

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    I guess its for mac book but on a real keyboard just replacing the caps with tall ones that loft from square to a circle at the top would be way better and less floppy

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    The thing that I can’t understand about this product is why they didn’t cover the function keys. They are literally functional.

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      Although using the top row of keys does not cause you to accidentally hit keys above it.

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      Yes but I’m guessing to also be universal some macs have the touch bar which this would then cover