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Lol people are toxic everywhere.
Fuck you man
Suck MY wang!
There is plenty of toxicity, but I don’t think it “migrated” from reddit. It’s just a property of people.
Blaming reddit for reddit’s behavior is a very reddit thing to do.
Yes exactly, the difference between Lemmy and Reddit is that while Reddit encouraged toxicity it for engagement purposes, Lemmy admins are incentivized to shut it down ASAP.
There will always be sucky people wherever humans congregate, the question is will they be allowed to disrupt everyone else.
Every time we get a wave of fresh influx, it seems to bring a fair number of upset people here. I’m not particularly surprised, they’re coming from a less-pleasant environment just in general.
People do seem to settle down a little bit after they get some time to unwind from that all, though.
Not really. Disagreement, even angry disagreement, but only hexbear did I find truly toxic.
Conversely, I had to use reddit recently (to find an old post) and I don’t know if its because I haven’t been there for months and I’d forgotten how bad it is or if it is actually worse but fucking hell it was like a war zone.
Yeah I popped over there for a sec and holy hell what a toxic crap hole. Like, ok, on lemmy there are a few shitty takes here and there. But most of the folks writing them are generally ok and it is a one off. Discussions are mostly good faith and reasonably civil. Signal to noise ratio is so much higher.
On Reddit it is just a deluge of hateful bullshit and most of those post an endless stream of it. Nearly all the discussions are bad faith full of venom and ire pushing propaganda and lies and hate. With downvote brigading and astroturfing galore.
(Mind you I don’t see anything from hexbear anymore… Quite a few really bad eggs from that basket JFC)
Big same on that second paragraph.
Honestly, I’ve found this place to be a lot more toxic than Reddit, especially when it comes to tech.
I came across a highly upvoted comment on Lemmy saying that they wished someone would engineer a virus to fucking murder everyone with right-wing fundamentalist views. Now, I don’t like right-wingers and think they need to fuck off, but calling for the presumably extremely slow and painful (as viruses tend to be) deaths of so many millions of people is pretty fucked up and I got heavily downvoted for pointing that out.
Yeah, this place is even more toxic than Reddit. There was a period when it was new that it seemed like everyone was a lot nicer and more positive, but that has ended.
Absolutely. I just recently got roasted for posting a guide to updating the BIOS on certain laptops in the Linux forums.
Was expecting a small number of comments, maybe a couple of questions or “thanks”; nope.
“OP IS RETARDED THATS NOT HOW YOU DO IT!!!” Neckbeards gonna neck.
Noone called you retarded.
Some posts have been removed but also you realise that not everything is literal, right?
Oh, I see. So your claims of toxicity were not to be taken literally?
Turns out they were the toxic one the whole time
Nobody was toxic against you in all 3 posts you crossposted. Some were saying that it is confusing, a harder way to do it or that it didn’t work.
Really?
https://lemmy.world/comment/6074010
https://sopuli.xyz/comment/5444087
https://lemm.ee/comment/7385146
The more important question is why were you trying to gaslight me? Does it help with your own insecurities?
I don’t really see any toxicity here.
Take the last link for example, where exactly is the toxicity?
Ok. I don’t see any toxicity here.
Ahh I see you’re a mod. Of multiple communities. It takes a “special” kind of person to want to be an internet hall monitor, let alone try and collect as many sub’s as they can.
Most people understand tone in writing.
You don’t.
Somewhat. I’ll use myself as an example.
When I first came to Lemmy, I was more defensive than I realized. I had gotten used to aggressive, obnoxious behavior. Soon, I noticed that wasn’t an accepted norm here. It only took a couple days to realize, but I needed a few weeks to actually get out of the habit. In those early days, I’m sure I brought some toxicity with me.
Now, though, I don’t create, feed, or encourage toxic comments. I just assume it’s an honest mistake, poor choice of words, or someone whose primary language isn’t English. If I choose to reply, I’m friendly, and give them the benefit of the doubt. If a comment seems deliberately rude or trolling, I don’t engage at all.
Also, how nice is it to be able to give (or get) the benefit of the doubt?!? You can make a spelling error without getting three or four pedantic screeds! I didn’t realize how much I missed basic civility until I rediscovered it here!
Sounds like you’re in a much healthier mindset now! And I think that mindset spreads just as virally as toxicity, both online and in real life.
Kudos on the introspection and growth, my friend
The communities I frequented in Reddit were pretty positive. I see more snarky comments on Lemmy, but I’m posting more here, so maybe I’m just getting more interactions.
I thought so until I went back to reddit and saw the difference. Just today there was a post on PublicFreakout about Just Stop Oil sitting in front of a bus and over 300 comments wishing the bus driver would have ran over the protestors and killed them. It was actually insane.
Yeah the attitude on Reddit of using a car as a self defense weapon against protestors really baffled me during the BLM protests. They downvoted me like mad when I said it was cringy and sick for them to get so hyped over clips of it happening
Yeah it’s terrible that people wish other people would die due to their beliefs or activism. It’s just not necessary and just plain inhumane.
On the other hand I just wish these just stop oil protesters weren’t so dumb. I still remember the UK article about them halting a tanker truck. Meanwhile the driver is talking to a news crew saying something along the lines of “Yeah but that’s cooking oil”
Then there’s the thing about them hiring a hall for a rally and holding a banquet. With plastic cutlery… Like what? You’re using oil based shit. At least check yourselves in the mirror before you go out and tell others how to go about things.
A few weeks ago I saw a reddit thread where the general consensus was that microtransactions were ok and even good. How it has changed from its heyday.
I don’t know if I’ve seen more toxicity per se, but I definitely have seen more negativity recently. I remember when I first got here during the reddit protest stuff, everyone was so nice and it felt very refreshing compared to reddit. Now I don’t get that feeling. There are still plenty of nice people, but there’s just a lot of bitterness regarding the state of the internet right now.
As well there should be. Enshittification is here to stay it seems.
Nice people are still around, but in smaller communities
Actually had a conversation the other day on Lemmy with another user where we disagreed on a topic.
We did not attack each other or were agressive. So I’ll take that as a win
This place feels too political sometimes. I’m alright with being political, but just with the right amount.
To be fair, choosing Lemmy over Reddit is absolutely a political choice, hence people here are going to be more politically-minded.
Maybe? I definitely interact with more users lately who seem unable to make a point without being a condescending ass hat at the same time. Couldn’t say for sure if they’re coming over from Reddit, though.
The toxicity here is rather different than what i’ve experience in Reddit, the kind that make me quit it just like that. It’s just too many kids there.
I agree, people around here seem more mature on the whole. In my last year of Reddit, not only was I getting tired of the comment reposting bots, the teenagers subreddit seemed to permeate throughout the rest of the site more.
Not really. I’ve seen a lot arguments on here actually resolve amicably instead just degrading into personal attacks. Also seen people take criticism
Yeah, I particularly remember seeing two people go back and forth, and you’d have to click “Show further thread” like 6 times before one of them just quit it.
I tend to genuinely feel that the users here are more mature and more open minded.
On reddit 😡
Here on Lemmy 🤤
No, but certainly seems that Reddit has turned into a cesspool of right wing ideology.
