Things like “Fiat stands for “Fix It Again Tony”” etc.
All American car brands suck
Does that still make me a boomer?
No, it makes you correct
Buick has always been pretty good. The LaSabre drives like a sofa on wheels and the 3800 is a decent enough motor.
I’d also say that Panther body Fords punch way over their weight class.
The push rod engines GM made like the 3400 and 3800 are pretty good. The aluminum used for the heads in the early 2000s was way too soft causing rocker arms to pop off. The 4T65E transmission often paired with it was a piece of junk. Also anything with Dexcool is just no.
I wouldn’t touch a Ford after the early 2000s with someone else’s the foot pole. The Panther was fine but it hasn’t been made since 2012. The best was probably the Crown Vic of you wanted a giant car, but I don’t consider the ones after the early 2000s all that good.
Alright Alright Alright
omg no!
Lamborghini stands for Looks Alright Mostly But Overall Really Grandiose (and) Hardly Inconspicuous Now Innit
My inner voice naturally ended this with a British accent and it caught me off guard
Your innit voice.
Ali G
My boss calls Ford: Found on roadside dead
Fix or repair daily
Ya know why Ford started using aluminum istead of steel? So you could push it home when it breaks down
FIAT. Fix it again Tony.
Backwards: Driver Returns On Foot.
That was always one of my dads favorites.
mine was always, Ford: At least they circled the problem.
Fuckin Only Runs Downhill
Fucked On Race Day
Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge
Forming an uneducated opinion on something based on an anecdotal experience, and then refusing to back down from it no matter how much time has passed or new informationtion is provided, is a boomer way of life.
Fundamentalist mindset. It will make more sense when you realise that.
You can tell a fundamentalist mindset when they start with the conclusions and the backwards logic doesn’t make sense
At least boat owners are unified: Bring Out Another Thousand (bucks)
A boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money.
either lemmy users are overwhelmingly born in the 50s or this thread proves that it’s more than a boomer thing
Yeah, I see nothing but tesla disses on Lemmy.
I won’t diss other car brands, but Toyota is the the only brand I’ll spend money on…after a bajillion years of them being at the top of the dependability list, why would you choose anything else?
Hard to go wrong with Toyota but let’s not pretend they didn’t have to face one of the most expensive (per vehicle) recall ever on multiple models with the full frame replacement on their trucks…
Honda is another brand that’s extremely reliable in general.
If you’re not in the States, Hyundai and Kia are in the top 5 for reliability, and are much more affordable than Toyota and Honda
Best avoided if you live in that one country who’s manufacturing laws are designed to benefit shareholders rather than consumers though lol
The wave of cars being stolen in the US via the use of USB cords has soured me on those brands permanently.
The fact that the vulnerability was fixed via a software patch did not do wonders for my opinion either.
Did you even read my comment?
Location is irrelevant … That was choice by Hyundai/Kia, to cheap out and remove the immobilizers.
Which they only did in the States. Nowhere else. Because they could. Because they have to be competitive with US manufacturers, who are all pulling the same shit
There’s a good reason US-made cars don’t sell well outside the US
Nope - US manufacturers are NOT pulling the same shit. Kia/Hyundai are the only brand in the US without immobilizers because they thought they could skimp there instead of a posher interior or more electro-gadgets. Only in the US because the law at that time didn’t require it, but other brands who also sell worldwide (where it is absolutely required) didn’t consider this an option. Kia/Hyundai clearly did. It was a stupid, stupid call and it should impact their reputation. If they skimp on something as elemental as security, where else have they skimped…?
Yes.
I was trying to add a bit of context for those who don’t know.
I have about eleven cars registered in my name right now. Have probably owned about thirty. My Corolla doesn’t even rank in my top ten favorite I’ve ever owned but God damn I’d never recommend anything but a Toyota to anyone. I think everyone who says Toyota is overrated either A) have never serviced a car in the first place or B) have never serviced a Toyota.
Whilst they have been fantastic in years past, I’m worried about their future. Short version is, they use a lot of plastic now. source, I’ve been a mechanic for 19 years and currently work at a Toyota specialty shop. But still they’re probably going to be better than most others. Honda was good too though. I’m not sure about now, but my daily is a 97 accord with 265k miles. Amazing car.
Funny thing is that once I’ve told someone Lexus is basically a Toyota with sound dampening and a body kit and they were kind of less interested, seeing it as a cheaper car. The way I see it is, it’s like literally the best thing that could happen to any car; being made by Toyota
have never serviced a Toyota.
I’ve only bought Toyota for 15 some years now but they have service issues too. Like changing spark plugs on their minivan was impossible. 3 of the cylinders were not accessible. Their automatic sliding door components were also cheap and everyone who owned one had it break after 10 years. Fortunately YouTube has experts that showed unofficial tricks to repair it without disassembling the entire sliding door.
Honda 4lyf
If I couldn’t get a Toyota, I’d buy a Honda!
Do you mean the Toyota with the airbag issues in the 90s, or their EV last year where the wheels would FALL OFF while driving? Toyota is a shell of what made it great, and the whole greenwashing of their hybrids (eg, their self-charging EVs bullshit) should make you think of other choices.
Why do Skodas have a heated rear windscreeen? To keep your hands warm while you push it.
(I’ve owned a few Skodas, they’ve all been good cars)
Lol that was lada where I’m from
What do you call a lada with two exhaust pipes? A wheelbarrow
What do you call a lada with a sunroof? A rubbish bin / trash can
What’s the difference between a lada
There’s a raffle at the bar. First prize, a lada. Second prize, two ladas.
How do you double the value of a lada? Fill it up.
You forgot one:
Guy goes to his Lada dealer and says “I want a gas cap for my Lada”. Dealer replies “…that seems like a fair trade.”
From what I have seen they are pretty good these days. I’m the 80s and 90s though…
Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
I’ve heard GMC as God’s Mechanical Crisis.
My mom shared with me “GMC: Grande, malo, y caro”
“Big, bad (read: poorly made), and expensive.”
Me and a friend used to make up insulting rhymes about car brands we saw from the school yard.
I only remember one, this was a long time ago…
This was in Swedish, so I will do my best to translate, but don’t expect miracles:
Renault är en bil för två - en sitter i, en skjuter på. | Renault is a car for two - one sits inside, the other pushes.
As for my car preferences, so far I have only had one, I got my license late 2022 at 35, and bought my 2021 Seat Leon PHEV used last summer.
I really like it, sure it isn’t the world most luxurious car, and the touch UI is annoying as hell, but it is comfortable, quick enough and as long as you use the PHEV mode it doesn’t need a lot of fuel.
I almost got a Mazda 3, but if I remember correctly, there wasn’t any within my budget.
Renault had an old tagline - “nothing stops a Renault”. A common joke was to add “not even its brakes”.
Was a diesel mechanic for a summer, the power stroke is a good motor and I like the f series more than other pickups but they came in the most often for maintenance, take that how you will. Cummins didn’t break much so it was rare to see them but it was damn near a pleasure to work on them, the old diesel rams give you so much room to work with and don’t put stupid shit in the way. If every single GM executive goes to hell exclusively for the Duramax I wouldn’t consider that unjust.
A straight engine does make a difference in the amount of space that’s available on either sides compared to a V but the front end won’t be as easy to work on not that there’s a ton of stuff there except the big accessories…
I need to get off this thread because I’m getting angry lol. FORD DIESELS ARE GARBAGE! Scratch that, Fords are garbage. Cummins are pretty good. Duramax, garbage.
Depends on the Ford. imo Ford Australia’s final two Falcon models were unkillable, and contained an engine everyone’s now wanting to get their hands on due to its bulletproof construction and potential for huge, cheap power.
Source; I’ve owned an FG Falcon from new which now has over 450,000km on it and never once had any issues (also thousands of taxi drivers over 15 years can’t be wrong.)
Wait’ll you hear which one came first
But that line about fiat is true.
I don’t know man, I had a 2010 Punto Evo that just refused to die.
Sure, I had to replace the clutch at 120,000km as the previous owner probably drove in a lot of stop and go traffic. But other than that it was my own stupidity or regular wear and tear that made it go to the mechanic for some work.
It even started overheating because of a coolant leak one time. I just drove it gently to the shop and got it fixed. No tow truck necessary, as the 77hp 1.4 liter engine barely generated any heat to begin with.
I sold it at 230,000km a few months ago.
Reliability is all about odds. Being generally unreliable doesn’t mean every car will have an issue. Fiat’s issue is usually the quality of their subsidiaries though. I think their own brand isn’t as bad
Burned clutch at 120k is totally fine imo. I almost consider those to be maintenance.
Fiat is ‘Fix it again tomorrow’
