The Guardian obtained a copy of Noem’s soon-to-be released book, “No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward.” In it, she tells the story of the ill-fated Cricket, a 14-month-old wirehaired pointer she was training for pheasant hunting.
On the way home from the hunting trip, Noem writes that she stopped to talk to a family. Cricket got out of Noem’s truck and attacked and killed some of the family’s chickens, then bit the governor.
“At that moment,” Noem writes, “I realized I had to put her down.” She led Cricket to a gravel pit and killed her.
She writes, according to the Guardian, that the tale was included to show her willingness to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it has to be done. But backlash was swift against the Republican governor, who just a month ago drew attention and criticism for posting an infomercial-like video about cosmetic dental surgery she received out-of-state.
“She led Cricket to a gravel pit and killed her”
So the unruly dog followed her to its death… That doesn’t sound very unruly.
I grew up in the country, raised chickens with my folks, so I get that farm dogs are different than indoor pets, I’ve had to put down a few dogs in my day due to old yeller situations but I’ve never put a dog down for being a shitty dog trainer, something that Republicans seem to really love bragging about.
The point is to show she can intentionally and decisively be cruel and mean, especially to an animal under her custody. This is seen as a desirable character trait to Trump’s followers.
The point is to show she can intentionally and decisively be cruel and mean, especially to an animal under her custody.
Combine that with Trump labeling groups he doesn’t like as a bunch of animals and it gets even scarier to think that they might join forces.
I mean SS troops had to kill the dog that they raised as a puppy through their entire training to prove their dedication to Hitler.
I think you’re thinking of Game of Thrones and the Unsullied. 😂
(In all seriousness I know this is an urban legend told about many different military organizations around the world. I don’t know if there’s any truth to it.)
The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words ‘dog’, ‘puppy’ ,or ‘pet’ are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.
Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.
While “SS-Troops” (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.
If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It’s in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.
Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.
Is there a source for this? Not disagreeing, I e just never heard this before.
That’s because it never happened. If it had you’d definitely have heard about it.
By that logic Ea-Nasir didnt sell high quality copper until the rediscovery of his tablets. Obscurity doesnt equal it didnt happen.
You’re comparing apples to Nazis.
ELI5 for the intellectually challenged downvoting this:
Apple: Ea-nāṣir - one random dude c. 1750 BCE.
Nazis: The OG Nazis 1933 - 1945 that murdered millions of people.
The comparison is incredibly stupid. You might just as well liken a speck of dust to a planet.
Some of us have heard about it.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/03/evil-in-the-making/#:~:text=DE%20SWAAN%3A%20For%20example%2C%20they,was%20necessary%20for%20the%20Volk.
(Link from a few comments above)
Initial answer when the comment had nos source: Source: Trust me bro.
The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words ‘dog’, ‘puppy’ ,or ‘pet’ are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.
Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.
While “SS-Troops” (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.
If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It’s in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.
Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.
Source: Harvard.edu
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/03/evil-in-the-making/#:~:text=DE%20SWAAN%3A%20For%20example%2C%20they,was%20necessary%20for%20the%20Volk.
The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words ‘dog’, ‘puppy’ ,or ‘pet’ are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.
Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.
While “SS-Troops” (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.
If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It’s in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.
Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.
Anyone who willingly wears a badge or military uniform would kill their mother given the order. These symbols are identification showing us exactly who is preventing societal progress.
She tells it like it is. Unfortunately, because of people like her, she’s not totally wrong.
She killed her dog because she didn’t know how to train her dog
Not true. She trained it to chase pheasants all day before it attacked the chickens. It did exactly what she trained it to do.
Tbh not many people out there know how to train dogs (or cats for that matter).
In general, they don’t kill their dogs over their failure.
True, but they often send them back to where they adopted them from … when shelters are often overflowing.
Better give the dog a chance. It’s a purebred, she would get adopted.
Giving the dog another chance to be adopted is a hell of a lot better than having it follow you to a gravel pit and then killing it.
So what’s your point, genius? That we shouldn’t view her how she deserves to be viewed, I.e. a horrible person who shouldn’t be near any kind of grown up profession?
Straw man argument.
Not only a straw man, he also presented an ad hominem.
I mean yeah if I saw her or one of the other MAGAts dying in a ditch after a car accident, I’d pump my fist and continue on my merry way. Just being honest here.
Not really a distinction worth making when surrendering or adopting out a dog is just a pipeline to Euthanization anyways. This dog bit a human being, killed small animals for sport, it’s far too late to salvage.
There are plenty of no kill shelters. This county’s shelter is no kill.
And no kill shelters are selective and in high demand.
The one here is not selective. It serves a county of 100,000 people. The surrounding counties also have no-kill shelters.
I mean I get why some people feel it’s necessary to put down an aggressive dog, but holy shit, bragging about it just makes you look like a psychopath… when in Rome, I guess 🤷♂️
She was training the dog to hunt pheasants. The dog attacked chickens (pheasants)… And bit her while she was trying to stop it. There was 0 need to kill that dog.
Authoritarian virtue signaling.
I’m willing to murder my dog who else do you think I’m willing to murder? So how about you make me your VP?
That’s exactly what this is. It’s violence porn for right-wing psychos.
So a reverse old yeller?
Na, that would be the dog shooting her in the face. We could only be so lucky.
It’s a shame, because she was white and attractive, so she met the republican criteria for a female candidate. Unfortunately she forgot the secret criteria of being quiet and repeating what the man says.
“I hated that dog,” Noem writes, deeming her “untrainable.”
Sounds sane to me. Hating animals is cool.
I have a pretty close to untrainable dog (she basically flunked out of obedience training) because she’s incredibly stubborn and I still love her with all of my heart.
I wonder how she treats unruly children and people who don’t obey her. 🤔
Actual psychopath behavior. Bet she’s going to wonder why her kids despise her.
I saw this last night scrolling through YouTube and only read the top line… “shot and killed” WHAT?!? … then read the second line. Still, WTF?!
This will never age well. Begin precipitous political decline.
Is she outside the statute of limitations for animal cruelty?
It’s South Dakota. I’m guessing shooting your dog doesn’t count as animal cruelty there.
I want to chime in that she did the responsible thing, here. Don’t let that emotional animal part of your brain think “how dare she harm the puppers” when she clearly couldn’t control, contain, or responsibly own this animal. Putting it in the pound would have solved nothing. She did the right thing and I have no idea why we’re even discussing it.
Every single action leading up to that point, though, that was on her.
Naw, just give the dog to a rescue, even a no kill shelter would have been fine, that’s likely a pure breed GWP (German wirehair pointer). There aren’t GWPs just running around loose on the streets, not hard to re-home.
Just an fyi on no-kill shelters, they are no-kill because they are incredibly selective on animals they take in, they are specifically looking for adoptable animals, this would be one they would take on a heartbeat. Hunting dogs killing chickens is an INCREDIBLY common problem.
Shelters overflow with these animals in the USA. I doubt that they would accept this animal at a no-kill, it bit a person. I think the choice she made at the end minimized harm and suffering for the dog and others.
They would! Poorly trained hunting dogs nipping or biting while in prey-drive is also incredibly common. I have seen this exact story play it with a Brittany Spaniel, rescue and no kills would take this 2 year old, put it in a very brief bite quarantine, then train it.
Like it’s a story that rescues and shelters hear all the time! Especially in heavy hunting areas
I don’t believe a word of what you just said.
Fully grown Dog abortion is A-OK!
So how deep is this gravel pit? I assume she had to wack the dog with a 2x4 or a framing hammer? Or maybe she tied him up and ran him over… that’s a very hard decision. There are harder ways. Like a small hatchet with a dull edge…you know like the French realty, lots of bone crackling and a big bloody mess? No thanks!
No thanks a lot! I’m vegan. We believe in reducing and eliminating animal torture.
The quoted text from the article says she was coming back from training the dog for pheasant hunting. Seems a safe bet she shot it.
Oh I missed that part. Yup that’s most logical.
Oh? Are you a vegan? Really?
How interesting.
