Because of “big toilet paper”. They even tried to assassinate a spokesperson for japanes toilets.
Holy shit? Do you have a source for that because damn. It’s something I would expect though.
It’s was joke. That’s the plot of a south park episode.
Honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised if Procter and Gamble did that shit lol
It’s a joke from South Park
Today you have the bidets you can install on your toilet, but traditionally they were a thing on its own, that required about as much space as a toilet and all the extra pipework associated with it.
In some European/ Mediterranean countries (I suspect France may have started the trend) this caught on well, and bidets were a must have in most houses that had toilets as part of their main architectural structure. Most people in South America had bidets this way, it’s rare to see a house without at least one bidet, and this comes from the culture inherited from colonial times .
Now, things are different in othe parts of the world. England seems to traditionally have the toilet separate from the house and for some reason the bidet trend never caught on. This is in turn reflected both in USA and Australia. I don’t know about bidet popularity across all of Europe, but this is definitely a cultural thing and I suspect distance and language may have kept UK without bidets until relatively recently. And as you know, old habits die hard, so… Yeah in Australia I use the shower.
in Italy, there is literally a law obligating houses to have a bidet. the separated from the toilet kind.
Just another reason to like Italy even more.
That would never fly in the US. They complain about water usage so much that they regulate shower heads so that they barely drip water, and toilets so that they don’t have enough water to flush solid waste. The bidet would just blow the regulators’ heads with all the water usage.
Which would be short sightedness on their part, since bidets actually save water in the long run by reducing TP usage
The bidet would just blow the regulators’ heads
Only if they sit on it backwards for the drying portion.
not surprised that Italy (who has a history of fascism and from what I heard currently has a fascist leader) has an authoritarian law requiring that people do things in their own homes (kinda like some HOAs in the US. Although, I have to admit, we must have lucked out with a HOA that’s not one of the shitty ones you always hear about)
fascism is when regulation
Yeah! Fucking fascists and their safety and building codes. Don’t even get me started on smoke detector and fire codes. Goddamn government always trying to keep slumlords down.
you are not obligated to use it.
a funny story, a couple from England transformed it into a vase and planted flowers in it.
“Hey you need to build the house with these features in order for it to be approved”
“Wuh what??? This is literally fascism”
brit here.
can confirm. i sit on the side of the bath and wash my arse with the shower. The only house i have seen in the UK with a bidet was essentially a mansion
Fellow Brit, I just shave my arse crack to prevent Klingons.
“today is a good day to die!” flush
“Glory! To you and your ass!”
Right now I live abroad and we have just the tub, so yeah same remedy. It’s cursed and annoying though, so I hate it so much
Also in the UK, the aftermarket toilet attachments are not in line with building codes because of the possibility of contamination of the water supply, so it’s quite complicated if you don’t have room for a separate bidet.
England seems to traditionally have the toilet separate from the house and for some reason the bidet trend never caught on
Uh… wut?
The UK has lots of old housing stock, built before the concept of indoor plumbing, so there was nowhere to put a toilet in lots of properties when they started to become a thing, hence you’d put it seperate from the house in an outhouse style set-up. We also lost less of the country to warfare during the two wars so didn’t have to rebuild whole cities, so the conversion to move those toilets inside was still going on as we moved to the later half of the 20th century. My old man didn’t have an indoor toilet in his childhood home until he was a teenager, he was born in the late 50s.
You still go to pubs these days that are old enough that the loos are disconnected from the main building as they’ve been there for so many years.
I live in the UK and nothing you’ve said here is congruent with my experience. I don’t recall ever being in any building whatsoever that had no indoor toilet, including pubs.
there was
In the past. A long way in the past.
as we moved to the later half of the 20th century
The move to the later half of the 20th century was 70 years ago.
Near where my sister lives on the edge of Bristol there are several pubs with outdoor toilet blocks. It’s usually country pubs or ones old enough to be listed. You’re not going to find many in cities these days.
This must specifically be like, row homes, right? Where it’s too tightly packed to fit a new room.
It’s not like houses here in sweden are brand spanking new and yet they all have toilets nowadays even if some of them are ancient.My old man’s was semi-detached, but yeah density is part of the issue here too.
This what I’ve been told- I’ve never been to England, my understanding is that back in the day this was the way especially for suburban and farmland, and that that’s why many old Australian houses still have the toilet separate. Obviously this doesn’t apply to dense or modern areas.
The utopian city of Atlantis sunk due to bidet overuse.
I suspect it’s a case of “We always did it this way, so it’s the superior way”.
This. In my part of the world, Nordics. No one has it, except really old bathrooms that have a separate bowl with o detachable shower head. But I only saw that once in my life. I installed one a year ago and it’s a game changer.
It’s a matter of planning and availability. In my country people don’t renovate their houses often and even rarely build them from scratch. Having a bidet requires planning and leaving space for it. Japanese style toilet seats are easier to install in smaller toilets, but they require electricity and/or hot water.
a toilet that requires electricity is mind-boggling to me, an american
There’s a lot of misunderstanding in this thread. Normal bidets that you buy on Amazon just get fitted under the toilet seat and connected to the water line that drives the toilet. There is no electricity wiring or extra .doodads needed
Unless you want heated water. My bathroom water gets pretty damn cold in the winter, but honestly, you get used to it. I don’t have hot water to my bidet, but I survive
This right here. Winters can be really cold and I think with water that cold my anus could cut rebar.
Same here. Warm water might be even better, but I don’t want to know so that I can continue installing dirt cheap bidets that require no extra work or plumbing :)
Yeah, because they have many nice features, from warming the seat to drying and washing.
Washlets don’t require hot water or electricity, though, they can pull right from the toilet water supply
I’ve had no issues with the cheap $20-40 USD bidets from Amazon, while I’m sure the fanciness of a heated bidet would change my life I don’t see the need.
When you say bidet you are referring to a toilet seat with water or separate wash head next to toilet. When I say bidet am referring to what french call bidet, a separate toilet-like utensil next to toilet. Those things require planning and space since they require drainage, water source, etc.
I think it’s more common now to call a bidet insert a bidet. So just an inser that you fasten between the seat and bowl with an arm for turning on and off the spray. That connects to a T adapter at the inlet on the toilet. Works really good and costs 20-80€/$
American here. Thanks to woot regularly selling them, I have a bidet on each toilet in the house. I have a battery operated travel bidet, because now I’m hooked.
It has certainly led to… “Interesting” responses from house guests. There’s always TP in stock, so it’s not required. Butt I’m never going back if I can help it.
There’s always TP in stock, so it’s not required.
That’s always weird to read. For me bidets are for after, not instead of.
After TP? Why? TP is for drying and a double check.
You would make a mess of the bidet otherwise.
Is this like the bidet version of standing-wipers thinking normal people will get their hand in the water?
The fact that any time there’s a poll and about half of people respond as being standing wipers always blows my mind. It’s just so… wrong.
Not true for any of the six bidets I have owned. the wand sits very far back in the spray is in the opposite direction of where the wand is and the wand itself retracts into a cover while spitting water to clean itself.
And I have never even had a fancy one with power or heated water. All these just run off the pressure in the pipe.
Huh? I can assure you won’t, unless you have extremely muddy poos?
Come to Asia my friend, Bidet showers, no paper.
both my grandmothers used to preclean dishes with the same instrument before putting them in the dishwasher. It was attached to the kitchen sink of course. When I first saw one in a toilet in SEA I thought ‘what? But grandma how?’. She told me that dishwasher salesmen recommended them, and I always wondered how they made the jump from Butt to Wedgewood.
You need to eat more fibre.
Whoa… Tell me more about this battery operated one. I just got back from vacation and I missed my bidet!
Yeah I’d also like a recommendation!
I have a travel one for camping. No battery though.
according to south park it’s because of toilet paper companies
Big TP lobbying against us 😭
in Vietnam, if a place wants to appear fancy and luxurious, they will try to appear “foreigner”. so they will remove the bidet and put toilet paper in its place.
nice office you’ve got here do you mind if I waddle around like a fancy man with shit on my asshole
In America? Because we are barbarians.
I kinda think that’s why we are all so pissed and ornery most of the time….because our tushes are dirty.
My nephews thinks it’s weird/gay.
They’re good boys, they’re also idiots though.
Tell them women don’t want to smell their dirty ass either.
once you go bidet you never go back.
Most adults in the west don’t even wash their hands after using the bathroom.
MOST!?
I want to believe that most wash their hands after defecating, at the least.
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Source?
OK, maybe we should just accelerate this climate crisis and get rid of humans, something has clearly gone wrong.
I can’t get a bidet because my friend is fat and breaks the toilet seats on the regular. He of course replaces them. I’ve tried bidets at other places and it was nice but i still had to use toilet paper to clean my now wet ass so I’m really confused when people say they don’t need toilet paper anymore. I really hope they aren’t just wiping their ass on a towel or some shit.
How do you wipe your ass after a shower?
For me, ass + water + soap + towel = ok, but removing the soap from the equation is a different story.
That involved soap a few mins prior so obviously it’s a proper clean ass my guy.
As for the bidet it’s only water being shot at your ass with no soap. Water alone won’t kill the bacteria unless we’re shooting some hot ass 140°F+ water at your booty hole.
Call Gwyneth, we need to steam dat ass
A. There are people that have poop towels even without using a bidet. Blegh! B. I still use TP to dry after using my bidet but the amount used is waaaaaay less. I have a cheap bidet that just has water but there are fancy versions that include fans to air dry. I imagine that feature might eliminate TP completely.
I spread my ass cheeks when pooping so the amount of toilet paper i use is max 4 squares at most. 2 squares for first wipe and then the 2nd wipe never has anything left but I’m paranoid and still go for the 2nd wipe haha.
I bought one couple of weeks ago, one of the best things I’ve ever spent money on, can never go back.
Fellas, is it gay to have a clean butthole
I think the question is more ‘why do some cultures wash, and others wipe’. I believe the answer is mostly to do with religion, and it’s laws on cleanliness.
Also economy in general. Some places are famous for not affording toilets or plumbing to begin with. A bidet is out of the question.
There are many places where washing is traditional, well before there were bidets. A small jug of water would be used. As I said, I think the more pertinent question is ‘wash or wipe?’.
I mean, you don’t do this OR that. You should do both
