• mindlight@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Today is a slightly better day for the people of Iran. Especially for the women of Iran.

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      I’m not well-versed in Iran’s politics, but is there actually any hope that his replacement will be any better for the Iranian people? I’d have to imagine that whoever is next in line would already be very much aligned with his existing policies.

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        Iran is religious lead, so unlikely. The real leader is Ali Khamenei whos title is “Supreme Leader”

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          Also to add that Raisin was groomed to take his place, and apparently the guy Raisi was grooming to take his was also in the helicopter.

          Khamenei is 85 years old.

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            2 months ago

            That is actually pertinent information. If the supreme leader is seen as weak at 85, and the next two steps on the ladder are now vacant… Well let’s just say that nature abhores a vacuum.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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        In the end, it won’t matter much. I’m not going to go so far as to say the President is a figurehead, but the real power in Iran comes from Ali Khamenei.

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        2 months ago

        The seat is going to another conservative politician, so probably not. One can always hope, though. Iranian civilians would really benefit from a more relaxed leader. Though the supreme leader is really the one running the show. Perhaps he will also get on a really old helicopter, flying in the extreme fog and rain, over a remote mountain range like this guy did.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        No. It’s a theocracy and he doesn’t hold supreme power. Revolution in Iran will be a bloodbath. The best case scenario would’ve been something akin to the liberalization of Spain post Franco, but that’s highly unlikely.

        Theocracies aren’t known for their long term stability, but Iran is known for its being absolute hell to invade. The regime is likely to starve itself of something, be it food, money, reproductive labor, or skilled labor. It will be slow, turbulent, and ugly

        • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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          My assumption is economic in that they will continue to spend as oil and hydrocarbon fuels dependency drops worldwide as it’s replaced with renewables. It seems dogmatic organizations like religions, theocracies, etc tend to do poorly with incremental change, but we’ll see over the next couple decades. 30% of their trade is with China so it largely depends on Chinese markets and how/if they decide to change as the markets change.

      • ABCDE@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Nope, he was worse than the previous guy. He’ll be replaced by another approved prick.

      • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        i am sure america will murder anything that is better just like last time.

        1959 CIA removed the democratic elected Mohammed Mossadegh

        Fucktard Nixon called the slaughterer Reza Pahlavi he installed a friend.

        so for me america is the only real problem here. AGAIN.

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    2 months ago

    The helicopter was an old American Bell, stopped production decades ago and parts are hard enough to come by. Sanctions work, they just manifest in mysterious ways such as this and Iran’s terrible aviation service record in general.

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      2 months ago

      Instead of getting old fighter jets from Russia for those drones they sent, they’d probably have been better-off getting civilian helicopters.

      • Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        “So hear me out, we place a bomb in one of the Hueys and then stop supplying them with new ones, one day their leader will totally get on it and then we got em”

        “Yo bill maybe slow down on the company acid please.”

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          Too obvious. More like, “We’re going to use slightly less lubricated ball bearings, position the aircraft on the market just where they will buy it, the maintenance specificity will not be documented, and it should kill a couple of important people in 50 years!”. (Loosely inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet)

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            I’m not sure the CIA was doing stuff as advanced as Stuxnet in its LSD days when it was supplying Iran.

            Though now that you mention it, I’m surprised we’ve never heard of the CIA doing more things like obscure Stuxnet style sabotage on leaders’ aircraft and the like.

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      that’s not so certain. it also seems that he was supposed to be next supreme leader of iran, and crosssection of competent, fundamentalist enough to current big boss taste and having enough authority in irgc is almost empty now

      and on top of that foreign minister that was also onboard was supposed to be next president. expect some power struggles

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        There are always power struggles. There will be a power struggle when Trump dies. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t easily replace him with some other useful idiot.

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            2 months ago

            I agree with you. This is a huge deal that will change the future of Iran. Dude was very popular And had the loyalty of the military.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            Nonsense. Iran has had multiple presidents who never became Mullahs, let alone the Ayatollah. There have only been two Ayatollahs. The current one was president, but that was before Iran rewrote its constitution. Note that Ahmadinejad is not the Ayatollah today.

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      I mean if he continues doing what he was doing for the past month, I would not be surprised.

      however, I don’t support any violence against people

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          2 months ago

          Well, the fact someone committed crime against Fico will only be used against the rights of Slovak people, so it’s not always the case.

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    2 months ago

    Never forget his legacy to society;

    The hottest urinal of 2024 (so far).

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    This is what we all hoped covid would have achieved with several more crappy world leaders lol.

    Reminds me of Zia ul Haq dying in a C-130 plane crash, although that was purportedly an assassination via a crate of explosive mangos.

    So far this just seems like an old heli in bad weather.

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    2 months ago

    Two helicopters traveling with Raisi made their destination unharmed.

    It looks like there were 3 helicopters and only the one carrying Raisi crashed.

    So far I have heard it was due to bad weather and that the helicopter was old. If the upcoming investigations shift the narrative to something different than an accident, it could be extremely alarming.