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    11 months ago

    Maybe Chauvin stabbed himself in a state of “excited delirium.”

    The important thing is, the inmate investigated himself and decided that he did nothing wrong.

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    Murderer. The proper way to refer to him, mainstream news, is “the murderer Derek Chauvin”. He was convicted of murdering George Floyd.

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    I feel this whole case is everything wrong with the justice system (aside from him actually facing consequences). A corrupt cop with a history of violence gets attacked in an overpopulated and understaffed prison where folks are punished instead of rehabilitated.

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      Right, none of these things should have happened at all. It’s just a negative feedback loop of incompetence and corruption.

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        This person spent a career throwing people into this exact system. Eagerly, if my perception of his past behavior after watching his entire trial is at all representative.

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          Yeah I think people are forgetting this was a cop who actively perpetuated this system. And not even in a “just following orders” sense, he seemed to delight in it.

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      Prisons sure cost a lot of money to tax payers. Are you sure they’re understaffed or is the staff just apathetic

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        Yes to both. Keep in mind “understaffed” means lots of things to lots of people.

        That prisons aren’t basically forced schools and therapy is an atrocity, to me, as an example. It changes the entire concept of what prison is about in ways I find unacceptable

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        I know a prison guard, not very well but yes we have talked a few times. He was telling me how there is basically no system in place for therapy for them. They see something brutal and they are expected to just come into work the next day which causes PTSD to run rampant.

        Messed up.

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        I’m of the opinion that, while the premise is agreeable it simply isn’t possible to rehabilitate police officers.

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        If someone can be rehabilitated, I believe that implies that they can be unhabilitated. It kinda implies that people aren’t inherently bad / don’t do bad things without something causing them to. If your dog shits inside because you forgot to take it out, do you punish it? If so, congratulations on being consistent, -ly an asshole.

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    While it’s easy to not sympathize with a person like that, no inmates should be getting stabbed in prison. It’s still wrong. And still a symptom of the bad justice system in the US.

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      Guy committed slow murder and set my country on fire. I don’t even know how we would be able to quantify the damage he did. There were BLM protests in countries on different continents. There is now less trust of the police globally, there are were countless riots and deaths and assaults and fires, this mistrust set off cycles of violence and has set race relations back decades. We live in the world now that we rightfully can’t trust our own LEOs and they have hunkered down.

      There are zero winners here. We all benefit from a police system that works and has earned the public trust. So yes I will shed zero tears for this man. Because fuck his racist asshole

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        We had BLM protests here in Britain too, but George Floyd isn’t the main reason we’ve grown to distrust cops.

        Two years ago, a serving Metropolitan police officer ‘arrested’ a young woman who was walking home from her friend’s house on the basis of her breaching COVID lockdown guidelines. He then raped and murdered her. The Metropolitan Police then proceeded to brutally crack down upon a peaceful vigil held to mourn her.

        Wayne Couzens is thankfully serving life without parole for his sickening crime, and the ladies who were manhandled, tackled down and detained during the vigil have been compensated by the courts. This whole scandal because the catalyst that led to Cressida Dick resigning as the Met Police Commissioner (long overdue), and investigations that found institutionalized racism and misogyny in the Met.

        Another example is the ‘Kill the Bill’ protests, which were protests held against the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill which was going through Parliament, which essentially wanted to give the police greater powers to suppress peaceful protests and dish out ten year prison sentences for causing a public nuisance. This came off the back of environmental groups blocking roads to protest the government’s inaction on climate change.

        Protests to oppose the bill led to a riot in Bristol where a police station was vandalized, and a later protest which was cracked down upon with violence. I remember seeing a clip on Twitter of a police officer bashing a woman in the face with his riot shield.

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        Yeah, this one guy here got a nice twist of karma. Many others though just get stabbed and raped anyway.

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      And cops who are supposed to protect people shouldn’t be executing people, but here we are. He himself contributed to the problem he’s facing.

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    Of course this would happen, but yeah, he shouldn’t have been stabbed in prison. I hope that’s obvious to everyone.

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        But if people don’t suffer in prison how will you make them afraid of committing crimes? /s

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          Yeah… because nobody avoided committing a crime because they were afraid of going to prison. /s

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              People avoid committing crimes because they are afraid of going to prison.

              Lol. Crazy how these things need to be spelled out for you, but I guess that’s where we are now 🤷

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                People avoid committing crimes because of their education and morals. If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you’re a psychopath. Most people are not like you and they don’t want others to suffer. Most criminals commit crimes because of lack of education and opportunities. They don’t care about going to prison because they have nothing outside of it they will lose like a good job or house. Europeans know that and focus on reeducation i.e. giving opportunities to people that commit crimes so that they don’t do it again. Americans also know that isolating criminals from society is not punishment enough so they try to add as much suffering to it as possible. When people suffer in prisons they feel justice was truly served. It’s just one of many examples of how primitive American society is.

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                  Okay you got me!

                  People don’t avoid committing crimes because they’re afraid of going to prison. I was so wrong. Thank you for enlightening me.

                  We should never punish criminals. We should only ‘rehabilitate’ them in the most comfortable manner possible. Everyone can be ‘rehabilitated’ and nobody I mean nobody is going to take advantage of lax punishments to commit more crimes!

                  You’re so wise and definitely not being taken advantage of.

                  If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you’re a psychopath.

                  What about robbery? Lol.

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                  Don’t argue with edgy teenagers, see his last reply, he is either 12 years old or functionally an idiot, Not worth the time nor energy.

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                That’s called Rational Choice Theory and it’s been disproven a bunch already. People dont think about consequences (generally) before committing a crime.

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      Yeah it’s one of those weird situational things. He definitely deserves to be in prison, and hard to argue against the stabbability, but when you do one at the same time as the other it seems wrong somehow

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        Sentence is supposed to be the thing that judge throws at you, and that should be it. The story doesn’t tell whether he was stabbed just for being who he is or whether he pissed somebody off. But it’s easy to imagine it’s the former in this case.

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      Should it have happened? No. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and all that. Prison shouldn’t be dangerous for inmates, no matter what they’ve done.

      Am I upset to hear that the personification of “ACAB” got stabbed in prison? Also no.

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush, is a good guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush.

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    I’m just glad he survived. Death is an escape he doesn’t deserve yet. He’s got many more years of “fun” to look forward to.

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    Wow, I’m soooo surprised an ex-officer got stabbed in prison. Who could’ve seen this coming?

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    It’s kinda freeing to be done with the disney channel ass idea that you should never celebrate others’ misfortune. It lets headlines like this be heartwarming instead of disappointing

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      That people are being stabbed in prison is an indictment on the barbarity of our prison system, so this should still piss you off.

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        I think for many people it’s probably the “just desserts” factor of our barbaric system hurting somebody who was a very barbaric cog in that very system.

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          While I certainly understand the concept of schadenfreude, I don’t think it should be built into our systems, and that doing so is an unjust, unethical failure on our ability to govern ourselves.

          We know this system does more harm than good but enable it because yeah, it does feel great when bad things happen to shitty people.

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        I mean they basically just told you that they’re a sociopath, so I don’t think they care.

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        The barbarity of the US prison system is a feature, not a bug. Americans really seem to love exorbitant punishments, awfully similar to medieval Europe. Perhaps in a few centuries your culture will reach modern human rights standards.

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        Not when it’s some asshat that killed a man for a bounced check. He pleaded for his life and called out for his mother. Fuck Derek. That dude can be stabbed 1 million times to teach other officers they aren’t above the laws they choose to preserve. He put his own law on full display. He reaped what he sewed.

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        Yea but do you realize how half those people got sent to prison in the first place? Besides petty non violent crimes those in that group I don’t count unless they get violent in prison as a result of prison itself. I mean I agree should havengot stabbed but there’s a reason most are in prison.