Every time you interact with someone you should give them a base level of respect. How they respond determines the amount of respect you continue to proceed with.

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    10 months ago

    Slightly disagree.

    Every time you interact with someone you should give them a base level of respect.

    No. This is true for the first meeting with someone. After that the level of respect is based on their previous behaviour.

    Regularly act like a shithead, zero respect required.

    Respect is earned. If you don’t treat other people, animals, public property etc with respect, you deserve none in return.

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        10 months ago

        So if a stranger disrespects me, I should disrespect them more?

        Sounds like a mutual self destructive relationship if you ask me. Someone either has to be the better person, or just walk away.

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          10 months ago

          Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, but if you can’t avoid a fight, ftw. Not words, talk is cheap, but in my corner of the world guns are ubiquitous too. There’s a difference between doormat/whipping person and hostile but at the end of the day, survival instinct is strong.

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          10 months ago

          Walking away is just as disrespectful as dropping to their level. It sends the same message just with less effort.

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        10 months ago

        I disagree with you that there is a minimum anyone deserves.

        Past a certain point you are disrespecting yourself to allow them to be in your presence or have any contact with you.

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      10 months ago

      Agree.

      1. Respect has to be earned (you cannot demand)
      2. Give proper respect (don’t expect they will reciprocate)

      Those are my thoughts.

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      9 months ago

      Right but often the self-respecting thing to do is not stoop to their level and make a mess.

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        9 months ago

        And some times you have to stoop to their level as some arseholes see any respect as weakness and the behaviour will continue. It should never be the first choice but it it is still an option in extreme cases.

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      10 months ago

      We give it on good faith loan, sometimes, but just because we give it and earn it doesn’t mean we’ll get it. Bstix got it right. Expectations of ourselves and each other are a hard road to disillusionment.

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    10 months ago

    Respect, Loyalty and Love are all things that can’t be earned, can’t be bought, can’t be expected, can’t be demanded.

    You can only give them.

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    10 months ago

    That’s what I tell my students, “I will have exactly as much respect for you as you have for me.”

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    9 months ago

    What about the respect given to an individual because of its status in society? There are certain people that have a base level of respect because of their seniority, job or role during a period of time.

    Those people may or may not show the same amount of respect towards others as is shown to them in general. And I dare say, there will be people willing to defend them even if they are not up to expectations, just because they have that seniority/job/role.

    Take for instance:

    • Some politicians
    • Some celebrities
    • Some senior members of an organisation, like CEOs, CTOs, senior managers, etc.
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    10 months ago

    It’s also not an equal trade, so no one gets it wrong. Not treating someone with respect won’t get them to respect you, but treating someone with respect won’t necessarily get them to respect you, either.

    For any young autists that needed it spelled out. Keywords being “treat them with a base level of respect.”

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    9 months ago

    IMHO a base level of respect should always be given. This base level is earned by existing as a being with thoughts and emotions. The way a person acts, any social standing, etc. can then lead to additional respect on top of that, but the level cannot fall below the base.

    I also believe that in a first interaction with a person, you should start at the base level always, regardless of any prior knowledge about social standing etc. This also helps to define the base level in a meaningful way, e.g. if this is the level of respect I award my new boss, this is also the level of respect I should award a random homeless person

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    10 months ago

    I see too many people claiming respect and treating others as nothingness. It’s not a form of earning, get respect is almost always a villain’s claim from villains people.