• antidote101@lemmy.world
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      They went to Romania because of it’s excellent legal system right? No wait, they went there because they thought it was a highly corrupt system in which they could pay their way out of their crimes.

      …and now they’re going to get prosecuted because they’re a highly visible case.

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        It’s only highly visible because he bragged about paying cops hush money. What Tate failed to realize is that hush money applies to both parties. The party accepting the bribe, and the party offering the bribe.

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          Not just that, but he also publicly bragged about how lax Romania’s laws and how they don’t care about rape during an administration that is attempting, at least on the surface, to change public perception of themselves worldwide from the corrupt governments of the 90s and 2000s.

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          EU countries are good place to escape if you’re expecting a death sentence or “inhuman” jail conditions (ie. torture, rat cell, etc). Otherwise it’s useless

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    Good. Fuck these scumbags. Maybe some of his shit for brains followers will snap out of it after this. One can only hope.

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    But I thought Romania was the perfectly corrupt place for a genius alpha like Tate to operate his “business” without any hassel.

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      I know you’re being sarcastic, but I just find it so hilarious that while Romania may in fact be corrupt, this small-dick-energy idiot somehow managed to make himself the whipping boy with whom Romania will demonstrate to the world how not corrupt they are.

      I will giddily await him having his front teeth extracted in make-me-your-bitch prison.

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        I hope he’s treated well in prison. Especially if courts determine it’s best for society if he spends a lifetime there.

        Just realized a part of that is for the workers there. If I were a guard I’d feel best about my job knowing it’s the most ethical prison it can be. If prison rape (if that’s what you were getting at) isn’t the sentence, then it shouldn’t happen. (If it’s the sentence, oh my.)

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          You’re absolutely right, and deep down I do agree that the civility with which we treat prisoners is the measure of society. Some countries more than others tend to engage in “revenge based” justice and its just yuck.

          I got a bit carried away with my comment because lately my justice boner just keeps getting deferred or held over. It’s been a long time.

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            We all benefit from a society with a higher floor for suffering. We all benefit from a society that doesn’t see hurting people unnecessarily as justice.

            I am not a prisoner, I hope to never be one, but if I find myself forced to violate laws to sate my conscience I hope I am treated as kindly as possible, so for that to happen I must demand we treat even the absolute dregs of society as fellow human beings who can reform and don’t deserve unnecessary suffering.

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              Since the Reddit exodus barring Hexbear and lemmy.ml which I blocked the moment I was able to, all I’ve seen on here is genuine discussion and healthy disagreement. It’s a nice change of pace compared to the rest of the internet.

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              The not-shitheads of the world really need to start organizing these things, instead of relying on kind strangers keeping their notes.

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                Meh. See how they didn’t reply back? They are arguing in bad faith, they don’t want/care about citations

                they just want you to either waste your time (so they can ignore you) or say something like “you can google it yourself” so they can say “see, you got nothing”

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              I only saw admissions about what is already publicly known. Yes he hired women and did pornography. This is morally wrong and destructive to society.

              The rape and trafficking charges are hoaxes because Tate is a prominent figure against the establishment.

              Bill Gates is on the Epstein list and his wife left him over the issue yet… No investigation.

              To quote George Carlin, “Its a big club, and you ain’t in it.” Not only am I completely confident he did nothing wrong. They would have buried him under the prison if they had any real dirt. I also know it is political persecution.

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                damn, we get a twofer!

                1. he diden’t do it
                2. it was fine because other people do bad stuff

                sounds like every other denier of stuff they know to be true

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                The literal first link that other persons shared opens with Tate saying:

                “I’ve committed federal crimes, can you get me no jail time”

                This is paraphrased of him discussing looking for lawyers.

                You can’t get a better source than the horse my guy.

                So what are your thoughts now?

                I’m not trying to shame you here. Just help you find a better role model.

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                  role model

                  One can recognize an obvious political persecution regardless whether or not they like a person.

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            Citation needed.

            I’ll take your silence after the citations were posted to be an admission that you were 100% wrong about this

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    Wheres all his defenders now? I thought tate was absolutely innocent and would not be charged blahnlahblah

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      Oh they think they’re cleared and this isn’t happening. Not joking. People at my work say this shit

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      Oh man I’ll never forget the plane trip I took where I was sitting next to a young couple and the girl was showing the guy Andrew Tate videos and telling him to be more like Tate. “You know how you’re always complaining like a bitch? Well watch this…” and then she played a video of Andrew Tate talking about how real men are stoic because no one wants to hear about their damn feelings. I was really hurting for this guy but he calmly told her she was an idiot and said Andrew Tate could fuck off.

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      Wheres all his defenders now?

      Screaming the n-word into the voice chat of their Call of Duty lobbies, while eating pizza rolls, and watching Adin Ross on Kick.

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      Not too bad we’re attending a beach football tournament of companies. Our friends did not qualify so we’ll be out early. But ! that means lunch at the beach, heheh.

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      Pretty good. There is a restaurant close to where I live that has got a lot of hype about, took the family there yesterday. It was worth it. Also one of my children has a recital.

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      Good, good. The flight was a bit bumpy today, but by 11am I was having breakfast at my favorite little place down in front of the mosque. I love the quiet Sunday mornings here.

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    The case had been discussed for months in a process before a preliminary chamber where the accused could challenge the evidence of the prosecutors.

    On Friday, the court in Bucharest said the case met the legal criteria and would proceed.

    So what’s the difference between this and a conviction?

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      It’s kinda like a grand jury where they decide if there’s enough evidence to proceed with the trial, but without the jury. It’s what a lot of places have moved to from the grand jury.

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    I was going to say, “We should go back to killing people,” but then thought better of it. We should start killing shitty people.

    “But who will decide who is shitty?”

    “That’s the fun! Anyone!”

    “But then I won’t know who I can be shitty around!”

    “And then?”

    “I would have to be a moderately less shitty person.”

    “Yeah …”

    “But what if someone starts killing random people without cause?”

    “Sounds pretty shitty. Kill them.”

    “But what about the innocent people who are harmed?”

    “Let’s not pretend to start caring, now that your head is on the block.”

    “What if someone kills you?”

    “I’ll be dead. I won’t have to deal with these shitty people anymore.”

    “Why not just kill yourself?”

    “Because I believe that my life has meaning and that I am helping people.”

    “But what if someone thinks that the meaning you have selected is shitty?”

    “Again, I will be dead.”

    “So how can we know what is and isn’t shitty behavior?”

    “It’ll work itself out if we maintain the system with some degree of fidelity.”

    “This would just create a society where literally person would have to agree on what it means to be shitty.”

    “Yeah, that would be dope.”

    “This is horrifying and short sighted.”

    “Yeah. Pretty on-brand for people.”

    “Yep.”

    “Yep.”

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    i do find it slightly horrifying that in romania they can just decide to put you in prison indefinitely without having to prove you did anything

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      They did release him because they can’t do that. However, he then told his buddy that he’s going to flee the country, who then talked about that on his livestream. That’s a new offense that lead to him being arrested again.

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        What? Why did I put known idiots to such high standards I need to reread it a couple of times to believe it. For fuck’s sake, it’s a ready winner for some award.

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      I mean this happens all the time in the US. A teenager killed himself after being locked in solitary without a trial for aaaages.

      They even have laws about when you are not entitled to a legal represtative and when you can be held idefinitely.

      They also have an illegal detention centre on foreign communist soil to subvert their own laws.

      The UK has similar over reaching laws.

      Besides Tate was a flight risk so was held pending investigation.

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        That other countries do it doesn’t make it not horrifying. Almost all your examples are horrifying.

        Only the last one isn’t. Being held pending trial if you threaten to flee the country? That makes sense.

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      The judge who approves it has to have some serious reasons. He’s a foreigner, wealthy, and accused of serious crimes. You don’t get held for months for stealing a loaf of bread. You can also only be held while evidence is being collected pending a trial.

      It does suck that law enforcement worldwide can pick you up off the street, fuck up your afternoon/day/week/month/life and then just say ‘oops, you’re alright’. If you have a better way, you’d be a revolutionary mind.

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      Maybe don’t go to a country with a corrupt justice system to comit crimes in if you want a fair trial? Just a thought.

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            if you’re arrested in the us, you have to be charged or released within a specific timeframe

            they can’t just detain you indefinitely for fun

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              Right, and that’s exactly how it went with Tate. And I have a feeling you know that? Either you’re playing dumb or you are dumb, both prompt me to hang up on this time waste of a thread.

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      I, too, find it “slightly horrifying” when countries don’t allow serial rapists to walk around free.

      Edit: I’m happy to spend today banning and deleting your multiple accounts troll accounts defending Tate, whoever you are.

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        i’m not defending tate he deserves to rot in prison

        i’m saying that a government shouldn’t have the power to just dump you in prison without having a reason for it

        when tate was initially arrested he was held for months without being charged

        being absolutely fine with a system that allows that because in this instance it happened to fall onto a guy you don’t like is brain rot

        you think the osu protestors that were just released without being charged would’ve been released at all without a law requiring them to be charged within 24 hours?

        banning and deleting your multiple accounts troll accounts defending Tate

        i have literally no idea what you’re talking about and it makes you sound unhinged

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          i have literally no idea what you’re talking about and it makes you sound unhinged

          Then you should take a look at both what is left of the two comments I deleted from the troll accounts and the modlog of their deleted comments. But maybe I’m just unhinged and none of that exists.

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      Is your username in reference to your treatment of Tate’s member? You realize if you’re willing he don’t enjoy it right?