The sheriff’s office said the woman, who was not at the home, had called deputies before the shooting to report two trespassers on her property. She also called Metz, who drove over to the home and allegedly blocked the teen’s car from leaving, KUSA reported.
Metz then got out of his vehicle and is alleged to have fired one round through the windshield of the teen’s car, the station reported.
These fuckeits refuse to ever just let a situation de-escalate on its own
Like, you drive there to make them leave, prevent them from leaving. And shoot at the fucking driver before speaking to them.
We can’t ignore the real life consequences of all this fucking fear mongering.
They don’t want to deescalate. They already had a big celebration planned in their head for murdering someone before they even do the act. They want to kill people so they can look like some hero. These people are sick and as far as I’m concerned their punishment should equal their crime.
“Yay, I get to legally murder someone today! This’ll shut up my hippy liberal relatives” -Metz, shortly before pulling up to the teen’s car
These shitlarpers are a bunch of weak babies that don’t have any idea how to be the big man they think they are.
Current report is the gun accidentally went off. Dude deserves the books thrown at him though. Kids where already off his property and honestly where not a threat in the first place. This is like that one story where the dude shot at a car turning around in his driveway.
As someone who owns multiple guns both for sport and hunting these are the people that should not ever own one!!!
Gun owner here.
- Treat all guns as if they are always loaded - Followed
- Never let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy - Violated
- Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot - Violated
- Be sure of your target and what is behind it - Violated
This shooter violated three of the four fundamental gun safety rules. That’s not an accident. It’s attempted murder.
Rule#1 of responsible gun ownership: always assume the gun is loaded
Also
Rule#1 of responsible gun ownership: never point a gun barrel at somebody unless you intend to kill them.
never point a gun barrel at somebody unless you intend to kill them.
In the infantry it was “don’t point the loud end at friends”
Rule number 1 of life: you can’t have two rule number 1s
But you can have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
Clearly you have neither spoken to a veteran at length, not are you one yourself. But here, I’ll explain it. The reason you call multiple rules/laws “the first” is because they’re all both equally and critically important.
Ask multiple veterans what the 1st rule of warfare is, you’ll get multiple different answers. If you then reply with “I thought this other one was the first rule of warfare” they will reply to the effect of “yeah, it is.”
Because firearms are dangerous tools that serve the singular purpose of killing or destroying a target, any target, and have been from inception to the modern day, every safety rule is just as important as all the others. Ergo, multiple first rules of firearmb safety.
Hey bro? Calm down, it was a joke. It’s not that serious. Did you skip your meds today pal?
It’s called personal responsibility. You should learn to accept that some subjects are going to be taken seriously, because they are (literally) life and death circumstances. If you don’t, they’ll just be taken seriously anyways, and you’re the asshole.
If I had to trust some internet rando with my life, I’d have no qualms choosing @Etterra@lemmy.world .
Attacking my sense of personal responsibility because I said “can’t have 2 rule number 1’s”?
It’s not me that looks like the ass but go off, hole!
Reminder that guns don’t just “go off” and anyone that suggests this should be disregarded as the nincompoop they very clearly are.
guns certainly do “just go off”
That’s why you secure them, unload them, store them safely.
Pointing a gun at something should be treated with the same severity as pointing it at something and pulling the trigger. Yes, police included.
This is the inevitable outcome of the combination of the proliferation of guns in the US + the over-the-top fearmongering of certain high-profile personalities (specifically on the right). It was never going to end any other way.
Scare people into thinking everyone is out to get them and tell them they have to arm themselves, and you get tragedies like this: the guy that shot a teenaged girl through his front door when she was looking for help. This kid shot in the face looking for a place to take pictures.
People like Tucker Carlson and all similar scaremongers (too many to name) are partly to blame for this. I’m old enough to remember the red scare, where average people thought communists were hiding in every suburban neighbourhood, and also the satanic panic – this is all that but on steroids.
Everyone isn’t out to get you. They never were. But people are becoming millionaires by riling people into killing each other *for no reason *, and unlike back then, now everyone is armed and convinced to shoot first like every place is the fucking OK Corral.
e: and to add a layer of irony, yes, Wild West high-noon shootouts are the same kind of myth-sayings as boiling frogs – pretty much all old west towns required you to surrender your guns to the sheriff on entry. Things were actually safer back then.
As someone who grew up near those wild west towns and have a lot of roots out here, yeah it’s a myth, most people I knew growing up didn’t even hunt, and most hunters I knew owned two guns tops and it WASN’T their personality, inviting you over to eat venison was their personality.
It’s not even a Wild West town, it’s conifer. It’s a rich person Mecca. Anyone that has a gun up there is most likely just using it to scare off wolves or bears, but not actually hunting (source, my in-laws live there).
From reading the story it sounds like the guy wasn’t trying to kill the teen, he’s just a giant irresponsible dumbass who should never had a gun in the first place, making all of them victims of the toxic US gun culture
It had to be raised and pointed to have a bullet go through the windshield and hit someone in the face. Don’t make excuses for the guy
I was taught when I first started shooting guns when I was 5 that you only point a gun at something that’s alive when you don’t want it to be alive anymore.
Hell I was never around guns as a kid and I was still taught this at a similar age.
Well, there ya go. All the proof you need that there’s clearly no gun problem in America.
/s
EDIT: I’d love for the cowards downvoting this to step up and be heard. Come on, speak your mind.
Confiscate the fucking town councilman’s guns, prosecute the dumbass for attempted murder and hopefully the teen will sue the living shit out of him.
“oh shit my gun just went off”
fucking hilarious how effortless it is for them to alternate between “guns don’t kill people” and “oh shit it wasn’t me–the gun did it!!!”
but seriously-- if you live anywhere near bumfuck tumptown hickville, for fucks sake tell your kids not to go up on anyone’s property. i live in one of these areas, and the government couldn’t hire anyone to go door to door doing census count for that one reason. they. will. fucking. kill you
When i was young, the US were famous for how friendly the people were and that you could just knock on any door and they’d help you. The “conservatives” have really done a number on you guys.
I mean, that was only ever true if you were a very specific hue on the color spectrum.
This is why stand your ground laws can’t realistically exist in places that aren’t sparsely populated. Because someone will read “defend your property and life with force if necessary” as “act as a raging lunatic and attempt to shoot anyone who comes at the door because it’s legal to do so if you claim you were defending your property, even though there was no indication of actual imminent danger to property or people”.
In my country we don’t have stand your ground laws. You can only defend yourself in case of an attack, but not drive away a thief. You’re supposed to run and call the police, but I keep wondering if a legal framework like the US where you weren’t legally punished for attacking a thief in your house wouldn’t be fairer but then there’s news like this.
Why should someone who is already breaking the law also enjoy the power of legal coercion to force you from a place you had the legal right to be, though?
“Well, we don’t want the situation to escalate. Someone could get hurt.” Why should the law protect only the welfare of criminals? Of the person actively breaking the law?
The issue with “Stand your Ground” laws is that the alternative is nonsensical if your view expands to include the rights and welfare of people who act consistent with the law.
You should be able to use reasonable force. If you’re trying to subdue a homicidal maniac then you can choke them unconscious or knock them unconscious or kill them if that’s all you have means to do. But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face, then you don’t have a right to kill them.
I think it depends on who causes the confrontation and who is escalating the situation to different levels of violence.
Also, I think there’s different ways to interpret stand your ground as a concept. You can stand your ground and use reasonable force to secure your safety. You should not be able to stand your ground and murder someone so as not to inconvenience yourself if you don’t want to take a step back or move out of someone’s way for example.
You should be able to use reasonable force.
Any amount of force that stops an attacker is reasonable, by definition. The only one who should have a legal obligation of care for the welfare of the lawbreaker is the one breaking the law.
But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face
But it depends what they’re yelling. If they’re yelling “I’m five seconds from killing you!” then you do have a right to use whatever force is available to you to stop them, and that might very well mean their death; there actually aren’t any safe, harmless, perfectly non-lethal means of disabling an agitated, adrenaline-fueled human being.
If that’s something that you don’t want to happen to you, then don’t go into public space and assault the people there. It’s actually pretty easy to avoid.
Who was attacking who when two kids were sitting in their car?
No answer required, FYI.
Where was the car?
It doesn’t matter. No place would justify murder.
It’s not unreasonable that you might need to shoot someone who’s attacking you with a car
What are the odds that the teen is darker than a peach color?
Hard to say. The kid was driving an Audi S4 so they likely have money.
Clearly it must have been stolen
(yes, this is indeed sarcasm)
Brent Metz is accused of shooting a 17-year-old in the face after the teenager trespassed on a property to find a homeowner and inquire about taking homecoming photos there. (Jackson County Sheriffs Office)
Trespassing? So walking to someones door looking for the owner of the house is now Trespassing? Wtf
Not a lawyer. By the letter of the law, yes.
They had to jump the fence - presumably the gate was secured - in order to get to the house. Further, they walked around the property looking for the owner. This looks to anyone without more knowledge, very much like trespassing.
Just my 2 cents, I’m not trying to defend or accuse anyone.
Not trying to but you literally did
Now hold on mate, just listing facts is not the same as an endorsement of a conclusion. The same can be said about NOT listing facts. All the information available should be presented to allow for informed opinions.
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