This could get real dark
Reminds me of the fact that female ducks have really complex vaginas to try to avoid getting raped (and it doesn’t work).
It doesn’t prevent the rape, but they do have “cul-de-sac pouches en route, that could prevent fertilisation by capturing unwelcome sperm.” So they can choose whether or not they get fertilized. Which is at least some sort of a defense. Edit: link for quote
“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
Turns out he was thinking about ducks all along.
“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female ducky has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”
FTFY
Dolphins do as well. They can move their tail in such a way that forces the ejaculate into a blind alley preventing fertilization.
Dolphins are quite rapey.
Male ducks have corkscrew penises, and female ducks have corkscrew vaginas that go the opposite direction.
I will think of this comment the next time I’m opening a bottle of wine
Does one of them end up doing a helicopter 🤔?
Ducks are involved in a genital arm’s race with each other, just because of how much raping they do.
Before playing the game, the participants sniffed either female tears or a saline solution
Why would they not include male tears in the test?
Because dad says boys don’t cry.
Not true; beta men cry all the time.
Sigma men are unable to cry whether they want to or not, even when they watch Brian’s Song* like alpha men**
*is this even a good reference to use anymore?
**is this even how the whole alpha/beta/sigma thing even works? Sorry I’m not sure I have the brain worms required to understand
* I enjoyed it
** I think people are waaaay more complicated than 3 arbitrary buckets. It’s the same reason Meyer’s Briggs is bullshit. Anyone who tries to pigeonhole people into all-encompasing categories does not really understand people
If male tears were the only control, then they run the risk of not finding any result. If you have 3 groups, you need a substantially larger sample size because you are running a less powerful statistical test.
Easier to start with the test that’s most likely to work, and narrow it down from there if you succeed
Having men sniff three different samples would still allow for saline as a control and wouldn’t really make the data set that much more complicated.
Is that an assumption or do you have experience with research like this?
Just college lab courses, but come on, it’s pretty basic. The experiment merely tests a single variable by changing it while keeping everything else the same. There could have been dozens of different samples that men sniffed and it wouldn’t really make the data complicated.
It would increase the length of the test, though, so dozens of samples would have been cumbersome. But just two? Literally just “see how the test group responds to sample 1, sample 2, and the control sample”? That’s not complicated science. You probably did that in highschool lol
Testing multiple hypotheses this way still requires additional sample size because there is an increased error likelihood. From a statistical point of view, the most efficient test may be to stick to one variable like this.
I’m guessing they had to stay within their funding/budget and didn’t want to reduce the sample size to increase the number of variables tested. MRIs are expensive
they should just be getting time on the machine although maybe also tech time. either way doing multiple with a single individual is easier than more individuals.
But that makes it more complex because you have to start worrying about the order they’re done in because it might be different emotions playing your first or third game plus the effect might linger, take time to show, etc.
Far better to answer one simple question and prove there is an effect then follow up tests can look at finding the bounds to that and starting to narrow in on identifying mechanics.
I could believe that. Hopefully they can get more funding for further testing.
I have experience and yes, it would not make it much more complicated. two types of controls are actually common although using male tears would not be a control. but like 5 research targets and 2 controls would not be beyond belief.
They said they had a hard time finding men who would cry.
They also didn’t test women sniffing women’s tears, or men sniffing men or women sniffing men, or animal tears.
They left a lot of variables out of this one.
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I thought the same thing, so I checked the real paper and they do end up explaining their reasoning.
As for social interactions among humans, future research will explore whether the new study’s findings apply to women. “When we looked for volunteers who could donate tears, we found mostly women, because for them it’s much more socially acceptable to cry,” Agron says.
I’m interested if the results are same for male tears and also if they’re the same for women who smell either gender’s tears.
Too hard to source
I feel like they should also have experimental groups of children and the elderly, to see whether age also has an effect on hormonal responses.
I suppose that applies both in regards to tears from and how tears affect. Hmm, I can see this getting rather complicated and extensive.
I feel like they should also have experimental groups of children and the elderly
I find this is my answer to most things honestly.
Seems there was a study that concluded female tears raise testosterone of men. I thus think it’s kinda understandable they did it in this way. But, yeah, not really convincing.
I was wondering myself what the effect of male tears would be.
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Because they sought to justify male aggression toward a non-subservient target.
As the wise man Borat once said:
“Do not fear me gypsy, all I want is your tears. Give them to me or I will take them.”
What am I supposed to do with this information
Uh, bottle the tears of women and throw them (the tears, not the women) on your male enemies?
Throwing women would also work, blunt force trauma does not discriminate, it only mushes
Perhaps in a trebuchet for maximum range?
This reminded me of a song by nofx about sending hookers to war
They just want their… 72…
thanks for specifying, was about to make a horrible mistake
Start fucking dropping tears en masse in chem trails across the country, maybe that’ll help. They already think we do it anyway.
Be more like Eric Cartman.
Sniff?
Distract yourself from your problems like everyone else? /s
Make women cry, bottle it, convert to crystalline form, snort.
Go sniff their snatch instead, it has the opposite effect.
Must be why they prefer to make us suffer from a distance, sitting safely in Congress and the courts where they won’t be exposed to our tears
Can we do something to induce tears from women without causing any serious harm? Like tickling your feet with a feather duster or something? It just seems like the perfect thing to pour on Trump’s head.
There are entire websites for precisely that. I’ve heard.
Hallmark channel movies.
Onions
Red pepper flakes.
Psylocibin
If you leave the toilet seat up and forget to take out the trash, at a particular time of the month, that’s often enough.
If that fails, you’ll have to say her favourite top is starting to look a bit snug.
The journal isn’t such a high prestige journal. It’s actually a new one with open access, which doesn’t attract best studies. Combined with the fact it’s a psychological study, which is hard to replicate, and somehow the authors employed MRI, which doesn’t really prove anything by itself, I think the authors knew it wouldn’t be perceived as the best quality article.
Your first statement is completely wrong.
PLOS Biology, the journal this article is published in, is founded in 2003, so hardly a new journal, and has an impact factor of ~9, which means that it IS a prestigious journal.
I’m sure biology publications started 20 years ago. /s
The impact factor is rather high, I agree, but IF also a statistic that’s often criticized for unreliability.
I’d take it back if someone in biology tells me their community submit their work there, but otherwise I’d be skeptical. It’s also weird for a 20 year old journal to accept everything biology. Good new journals tend to specialize.
So you are wrong and hand wave to make yourself feel better? You seem like a real winner.
I don’t know. I think we’ll talk after you learned reading comprehension.
“Hey man, I fucked yo wiiiiifeee”. “Quickly! smell my finger, how do you feel?”
Sometimes I wonder how much I am really in control and how much it is biochemical weapons by living things around me.
You can do what you want, but you can’t want what you want.
Is this compatibilism?
No, this is Patrick!
Similar biochemicals are flooding your internal systems all the time.
Thanks, I hate it.
But why
How… uhh… yea like how did someone even come up with this as a thing to uhhh… study? How the shit did someone’s brain arrive at “let’s get women’s tears and uhhh present them to aggressive men.” Like… what?
The only difference between a scientific experiment and screwing around is writing it down.
Someone observed something odd in the wild and decided to investigate further and stumbled upon this effect. Largely similar to most other discoveries?
Ok, liberal women of America. Here’s your chance. Cry those liberal tears they all want you to cry and then throw the tear jars in their faces!
Chemical warfare at its finest.
Once again, Always Sunny is ahead of the curve
Sunny made an episode about this? Im not entirely done with the series but I’m on season 14
I think it was the Mindy Kaling episode where she tried to convince the gang to relabel their champagne as “Liberal Tears” (because wine/whine).
It just gets me hard, not a good combo.
Which, as always, leads back to aggression.
It usually makes me horny, but yeah, I guess you could say that’s not aggressive.
Bloodhound Gang had it right; the lap dance really is better when the stripper’s crying!
I have a business idea
I can’t decide if cultivation would be easy or hard.
I mean gamer girl bathwater is a thing, and tears actually have a use. Just have famous people bottle their tears, then auction them to the highest bidder.
I read this as “mean gamer girl bath water” and I was momentarily impressed that the market for gamer girl bath water had expanded to include different flavors.
sniffing the tears of men just makes us more powerful
I could imagine, yes, that 44% of aggressive men would stop dead in their tracks if shouted “SMELL MY TEARS! SNIFF’EM, GEORGE!” mid fight
