Stimulant medication isn’t a cure, you don’t have to take it every day, and it doesn’t matter when you take it as long as its far enough away from when you sleep.
Nonstimulant medication is also not a cure. There is no cure for ADHD. It’s like saying there’s a cure for schizophrenia (not comparing the two as issues). Some things don’t get cured, they just get the severity lessened.
I don’t think they implied it was a cure.
As long as you don’t expect to get laid anytime soon too.
I’m not sure why you got downvotes… You’re correct. Some of the pills do absolutely affect arousal and libido.
I was medicated with an Adderall-like pills back in my college years and it was AWFUL. My peepee was flaccid for more than a year. Had to stop taking the medication for my well-being.
No shame it taking pills to make it hard again though.
The limpness is one of the problems with those medications. First you lack libido. If you feel like rubbing one out, though, you won’t be able to get it hard. And IF you manage to get hard, at least a bit hard, you won’t be able to ejaculate.
It doesn’t make sense to take a pill that neuters you, and then go and take another pill to counter the effect. It’s like if you’re obese and have high blood pressure, and instead of exercising you take pills against it - you’re only fighting symptoms, not the root cause
Wth are you talking about. People dont take ritalin to kill gtheir libido. Thats a side effect.
Aaaaaand sometimes is a “controlled substance” so you have to get a new prescription every month. No 90 day supply, refills, or auto renew. 🥲
What’s that? You can message through the app to refill all the other ones easily but not the magic one requires calls and in-person visits to remember and juggle? Cool cool cool.
i understand the sentiment and I appreciate the irony but medication is only as much a ‘cure’ for ADHD as ‘having no legs’ can be ‘cured’ by a wheelchair.
Reading the comments here makes me overly conscious about choosing my word carefully. Say “cure” instead of “medication” and there goes the point you wanted to make!
Lemmy definitely inherited reddit’s pedantry, lol
What do you mean at the same time!?
“Cure”
Fking lol
And stimulants are insanley addictive, terrible for you, and make you go crazy
Idk bro I have adhd and have taken stimulants for over 5 years now. These days I take less than when I started, and I sometimes take weeks off by accident. I’m more addicted to caffeine than dexedrine lol.
If you have ADHD and you drink coffee, there’s a good chance you are inadvertently doing the same thing as the medication. I don’t take medication for my ADHD anymore, I just drink a cup of coffee in the morning and then one in the evening, the caffeine calms me down and acts the same as if I took the medication. It’s weird that stimulants work that way but it’s cheaper then concerta
Idk if it’s definitive, but research actually suggests that caffeine does not (generally) having mitigating effects on ADHD symptoms. (Edit: after reviewing my source, this was only true for children, not for adults. Adults did show some correlation between caffeine intake and reduced symptoms)
Additionally, people with adhd aren’t more likely to drink coffee either…. But interestingly, those with ADHD who do drink coffee are more likely to “misuse” it.
Not saying it doesn’t work for you, everyone is different, but it’s just not generally supported by the science.
I’ve never actually looked into it, I’m just going off of my personal experience and most other people that I know with ADHD.
Maybe we are all outliers, I’ve never looked into actual research studies for it, but I definitely have a similar effect drinking coffee or anything with caffeine versus taking medication, and most of the time when I ask someone else about it they will say that they’ve experienced similar cases. It’s weird if science studies don’t show the same though
I believe the study used caffeine pills, so maybe there’s something special about coffee itself. Or, another possibility is that you feel like your symptoms are improved, but they aren’t actually. Or the study simply got it wrong for some reason.
Actually, just went back and reviewed the video talking about the study (https://youtu.be/-SLUyGlrfI0) and I misremembered. It shows some evidence that caffeine can help adults, though not children. And generally there isn’t enough research to say definitely that it does help adults.
Yep.
I am addicted to my brain functioning normally and being able to accomplish things
It is terrible for me that I didn’t get diagnosed sooner.
It made me go crazy with how big of a difference it has made in my life. I went from sluggish trash goblin hissing at the light to a productive wood elf singing and creating great crafts.
So, yeah, what you said.
**in a non ADHD brain
Stimulates are not as addictive for people suffering from ADHD because it physically effects us differently. If you have ADHD then you have issues with negatively skewed dopamine responses and stimulates help by inhibiting the reuptake of dopamine causing the dopamaturgic response to seem more powerful than what it is (because again I can’t stress this enough the dopamine response does not function correctly) (source)
Risking to repeat myself, but this is exactly why medical cannabis is a valid option.
The dopamine/reward processes in your brain are controlled by the inherint endocannabinoid-system. More and more evidence exist that many neurodivergent people (including adhd, autism and even schizophrenia) suffer a lack or imbalance to native endocannabinoids. I firmly believe the right mix (which should be the personalized for each person) can do almost Miracles to our well being, focus and ability to function.
That’s what I keep telling self as a spark up daily
While it is possible to find consistent weed of a certain cannabinoid profile, a real medicine would be a custom personalized mix after having your own endocannabinoid profile measured.
If your buying random strains from a friend i need to disappointed you, while it can alleviate some systems long term its probable not helping all that much and reinforcing a bad habit.
As a general rule, “medical” requires consistency, in both product and dose…. Which is also what the original post here is kinda about. We came full circle.
I mean I have my medical card on top of living in a place that it’s legal. There is plenty of anecdotal information that I hope one day matches the research. Because as much as I believe in the qualities of weed I also understand we don’t have the hard data yet. Is there some positive outcomes from research sure and some bad as well. All come to inconclusive. Unless you have data saying otherwise?
I’ve smoked for years and am mostly fine , my aunt smoked and it triggered her psychosis. Do we know it was the weed, not 100% but we don’t know otherwise as well.
Though the original comment was a flippant comment about me so, It’s still what I tell MYSELF.
And non-stimulants are so subtle that they’re not even worth the cost of a visit to the psychiatrist. I don’t understand why they exist when they do nothing for the forgetfulness nor the depression, the two biggest ailments I have that are caused by ADHD.
You might just have depression cause strattera works great for me and there is a stark difference in my ability to concentrate and get work done.
I thought so too but I already tried every antidepressant under the sun before getting an ADHD diagnosis… Think it might be time for a third opinion.
Ever tried psychedelic therapy? I’ve heard of good results with that for people resistant to all other options, when taken under direct supervision and guidance of an experienced therapist. Not a clue how much something like that would cost though.
Look at those downvotes. People don’t pause.
Huh? You don’t need to take it at the same time. It’ll just impact your sleep if you take it too late. If you have extended release you just have a smaller window of time. Having a structured routine is an important part of tx anyway
I could never remember if I took my pills, so I bought one of those weekly pill organizers. I used it for a few weeks…But now I don’t feel like filling it up each week, so I just take them in the morning when I go to the bathroom… Then later on in the afternoon I wonder if I have taken my pills because I was on autopilot in the morning.
I bought a replacement pill bottle with a digital timer in the lid that resets when you open it so you can always see how long it’s been since you last took it- it’s been a huge help and managing my medication. It’s called the BudCapTimer or TimerCap. Here’s a link - https://a.co/d/iZJilMh
Don’t bother filling it. Close it at the end, and pop open the lid for each day. I keep my pills in the bottle.
… But now I have to remember to close them all at the end of the week 😰
What about those fidget popping things? Label each with a day press in the day when you take a pill. Then just flip it over when the week starts over.
Must … Pop … All of them
and also you have to take it for two weeks before you get any effects and if you miss a day at any time you have to go through this process again
I’ve been on Adderall XR for over a year and I feel the effects within an hour or two and I’ve missed days and it only seems to make that day and maybe the next a bit worse, but not 2 weeks at all.
Which one are you on that does that? Ritalin? Vyvanse?
I believe most non-stimulants are like this. Strattera can take over a month to fully adjust and for the worst side effects to subside.
Strattera gave me stomach issues for 3 months straight and didn’t do shit for my ADHD symptoms. Finally went back to stims afterwards. At least with stims I either forget to eat or am disgusted by the thought of eating, but if I do eat, my stomach doesn’t feel terrible.
Yeah unfortunately it’s not right for everyone but for me personally it is like night and day with giving me back some executive function, working memory, and impulse control. Stims just made me hyperfocus on everything, including vices like social media, without any real motivation to devote that energy to whatever I was putting off. Especially if it wasn’t already right in front of me. I also had to be careful about tolerance cause I didn’t want to just chase a high but I wasn’t feeling productive at all once my body started to adjust to it. I tried to take weekends off but that just meant I wasn’t getting any chores done at home.
Theres only a couple bad side effects for me with strattera on the end of my second month in. The fatigue, which is honestly just a really intensely calm feeling that makes it hard to want to stay upright and awake, and I think that is actually getting better the longer I take it. The nausea when I take it on an empty stomach, though, really messes with my routine and eating habits since I really don’t like to eat first thing in the morning and that seems to be the most effective time to take it.
I’m just kicking myself for not giving non-stims a shot while I was still in college.
I’m glad I tried.
But I’m also doing so much better now and a 15mg Adderall xr does has been working great for 2 years now. I also found a job that follows my passions and I’ve been able to channel the hyper focus and drive to build and keep a schedule for work. The last step is to reintegrate my fitness hobby (cycling) back into my life and I’ll be back to where I was before some asshole manager from my previous job caused a mild panic attack in me and things broke down.