I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.
For me has to be Ready Player One. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!
Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anyone would think that actress is ugly.
And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!
Is like the creators have no self awareness.
I worked on the space shuttle program, and I found Armageddon almost unwatchable. I mean, those things go up with the big solid rockets and an external tank full of hydrogen and oxygen, all of which get jettisoned during launch, then they come down as a glider. But in the movie they’re landing on asteroids and taking off again, smashing into things and still flying, etc. (remember how Columbia blew up because of a crack in the leading edge of one wing?). Plus the whole premise of it being easier to teach oil drillers how to be astronauts than to teach astronauts how to be oil drillers is a joke. Every astronaut I’ve met has been an amazing capable person - many are test pilots with multiple advanced degrees.
I always love the interview with Ben Affleck about Armageddon: “I asked Micheal why it would be easier to train drillers to be astronauts rather than vice versa, and he just responded with ‘fuck you.’”
Ha! I hadn’t heard that - I’m glad someone involved called him out on it. I mean, I get that the real answer - to that and all my complaints - is that the movie doesn’t work otherwise, but it’s so annoying.
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If the movie doesn’t work unless you include a plot hole then the movie doesn’t work.
As soon as you know too much about a certain topic, any movie or series about it turns to shit.
I’m a nurse and badly done medical stuff in movies are so rampant and it drives me crazy.
That’s super true. What’s worse is that it often turns out to be true of news as well. There have been a few times when I was familiar with events that made the news, and there were always inaccuracies in the articles. It’s made me look at articles on events that I’m not familiar with differently; they probably have the same amount of inaccuracies.
I’m software engineering in aerospace, so a lot of computer and space stuff is ruined, which covers a lot of content.
But everyone should smack their heads about Armageddon.
Astronauts brains are too big, their soft womanly hands incapable of drilling. Wearing a spacesuit and floating around a bit is trivial. Only some yeehaw boys and one man who ‘tells it like it is’ can save us.
There’s also the really stupid “high G burn around the moon” scene, which I would love to see Scott Manley try to replicate in KSP.
That’s why I liked Deep Impact. It went must more (potentially) realistic than Armageddon. But the latter wanted its “common man, that people can relate to, saves the day” trope.
Deep impact is a great movie! Directed by Mimi Leder. She also directed The Peacemaker, a great 90’s adventure movie with George Clooney and Nichole Kidman. If you’re into that sort of thing.
Because it’s easier to put someone in a suite than teach them years of experience of drilling. You might remember that even the experianced driller had trouble. They also send astronauts with them as well to do the astronaut things, not just the driller crew.
The smashing into things thing and still taking off…well the movie was supposed to have a happy end for the remaining crew. It would’ve still been a happy end to have them die, but this way you get a lovely reunion with the families.
I don’t know you, but if you go by questioning plot-armor, you’ll have a really hard time to find something to watch.
Agreed. All the drillers have to do is ride. OTOH, neither group would fare well learning to drill in microgravity.
I don’t understand the the thinking that astronauts would be amazing drillers. Drilling is functionally a trade, the education aspect isn’t the key factor, it’s the experience. The movie actually does a fair job explaining why.
I would have written it so the drilling crew needed to learn to be astronauts and the astronauts needed to learn drilling and send them both up. That way, they would be each other’s backups and you get another small story arc out of it.
I never said that being a driller is trivial. Do you think being an astronaut is trivial? That’s a pretty intensely technical job, which is why the bar for entry is so insanely high. I would put my money on those folks leaning how to drill better than drillers leaning how to be an astronaut.
It’s not trivial to be an astronaut, but most didn’t need to be. Flying the ships, docking, and landing on an asteroid all require intense skills. The drilling required a similarly intense set of skills that you can’t gain in a week. You can probably teach someone the bare minimum of putting on a suit and working in it.
I’m sorry but I ADORE Armageddon lol is very emotional and self aware. Is definitely a NO BORING movie and always keeps moving, even when there’s no explosions going on. Ben Affleck > Neil Armstrong, I bet he couldn’t had reached those 400 feet in time! 💣
For me, it was A Quiet Place. I found it incredibly dumb and impossible to believe that nobody on the whole of the planet ever considered that these aliens with ultra incredible hearing weren’t somehow vulnerable to noise? Just dumb as fuck, especially when you consider that sonic weapons already exist and are used, and sound is routinely used in torture/incarceration scenarios.
Eh, I think of it more in the vein of It Follows. It’s not supposed to make sense, it’s supposed to be a minigame for the audience to play along with the characters. It lays out a simple set of mechanics and then uses that to build tense dilemmas, giving the audience a chance to think about what they would do in that situation, and what they definitely want to prevent from happening.
I didn’t see the second one, though. Heard it wasn’t great (no pun intended).
I like it but yeah, somehow high pitched noise lose to gunshot.
I actually don’t mind the premises behind the Death Angels, but the reasoning is pretty weak behind them. They could be defeated easily and the cast would not survive outside of the film’s sound design. The rest is just shit occurring for the point of the movie to exist, and its told pretty damn well.
And then they made a sequel. And now a prequel. This didn’t need to be a franchise.
Iirc, cochlear implants don’t actually produce sounds, but an electro static (?) feedback. So the aliens aren’t actually vulnerable to sounds but to that.
The movie probably could have explained that better
The movie was great until that lame “solution” to the alien problem.
Also the solution is guns.
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Aquaman. the visual effects were ridiculous, the characters were one-dimensional, the soundtrack was…something, and the overall tone was that of a testosterone firehose to the face. i said the eight deadly words about halfway through, and i was thoroughly bored out of my mind despite action scene after action scene after action scene…the only reason why i didn’t just get up and leave was because i was watching with a group
My god, even among DC movies, that was such a steaming pile of shit. And so what did they do? They made a sequel.
(Hey, I like DC movies. I really enjoyed The Flash, and I liked the Superman v. Batman, with Batfleck. So for me to say Aquaman was a turd in a punchbowl means something.)
What’s weird is it’s reportedly one of the highest grossing DC movies of all time, and a lot of people online kept hyping it up after it was released. I almost lost it when Pitbull started playing “Africa” unironically.
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Jason momoa is always either great or horrible in different things. its very strange
he absolutely carried Stargate Atlantis, it was weird to see him in Aquaman
I find he generally gives his best in whatever he’s in, but the projects he takes… vary in quality, to be polite.
Sometimes I wish Hollywood still made lower budget movies, because this felt like it needed a lesser production value. Jason Momoa knew what kind of movie it was.
i fell asleep during that movie multiple times. something i also did when i saw morbius (sadly me sleeping caused me to miss the best scene in that movie, when that one guy starts dancing)
Terrible movie
The Purge. They’re all dumb as fuck. “No lawz fur wun day. Halps soseyetti.”
Yeah no, trust in the government would break the floor and anarchy would reign instead. Not to mention businesses would probably refuse to operate here.
Don’t get me stated on how fucking dumb it is that everyone everywhere just immediately turns to murder. Crime isn’t something I have a problem with, so when I say I’ve never committed a murder it’s not because the pesky laws are stopping me. I just genuinely don’t see the need to kill someone. But no, everyone and their mom is going full zodiac all day all night if it went for laws!
I would say most people would just do nothing and the rest would go buy drugs
That’s a plot point in the prequel one (I’ve only seen the first one, though) and from one of the trailers I remember seeing, during the very first Purge people were just throwing huge parties and getting all kinds of fucked up, and the people on charge were disappointed because they just wanted people to kill each other.
It was posed as some sort of secret government conspiracy to keep the population/minorities/what have you “in check.”
That just sounds like a saturnalia
I would be boosting high dollar items and parking them in my yard.
I love The Purge, especially election day. They really hit that sweet spot between exploitative horror and substantive political commentary.
Which is what the best B movies do.
Really? I’d guess the opposite would happen, and the power vacuum would be quickly filled by alternate purge-day-only governments.
Seriously, it’s always been the dumbest fucking premise of all time.
Chaos, not anarchy!
Are these highly praised? I thought they were at best considered fine examples of a genre that’s looked down upon.
It is too early to say Oppenheimer?
Agreed. Bombastic. Felt like it missed the whole point of Oppenheimer’s moral dilemma
I’m biased but I thought it was pretty clear with portraying Truman as an unambiguously bad guy and Oppenheimer as decent but failing at a critical moment and then regretting it later
I’ve always imagined his moral dilemma was knowing that (after the Nazis were defeated) going ahead with the bomb was wrong, but wanting to do it anyway - because they had become so invested in the idea, and wanted to see if they could.
I’d been pretty eager to see it. Everyone told me how intense it was, I actually put it off for a little while because I wasn’t sure I was in the mood for something really bleak and existential.
Watching it I was like oh okay this is a movie. Not bad but I wouldn’t call it an intense experience.
Haven’t been able to finish it, losing my attention on it. Want to join the hype but… 🤷
Meh. If you like a political bio pic it’s probably very interesting but it didnt grip me as tight.
I think it was just too long, maybe at half of the length they might have thought more about what belongs in there
La La Land. Musicals are already on thin ice, but a musical about some arrogant, self obsessed people complaining about how hard it is trying to be (and ultimately succeeding in being) successful?? UGH. Shut it all down.
More importantly, >!they just gave up on their relationship because one of them was leaving the country? For what, less than a year? After all that, they just threw it all away because they didn’t want to deal with FaceTime for a couple of months? Bet they felt real fucking dumb when the pandemic hit.!<
Right?! “Oh no we are so brilliant and talented and smoking hot, but the world won’t just give us success on a silver platter and now that we made our dreams come true we miss being together”.
Gravity isn’t a space movie. It’s just 2 hours of Sandra Bullock crying and hallucinating. It’s probably the second worst movie I’ve ever seen after Open Water.
Avatar
That’s a strange film. I watched it at the cinema when released and enjoyed the visuals, but it seemed like the story was purposely simplified to a wild west love yarn so that the audience would have to focus on the visuals. There’s so little to distract from the “cutting edge” CGI, any depth to the plot or characters would be detrimental to the six fucking years he spent making it.
Which I can understand as it does achieve that. And I didn’t hate it, mainly because it did look amazing and I wasn’t distracted from that. But I’ve never watched it again and wouldn’t want to.
Weird.
Dances With Aliens was a masterpiece, dammit!!!
Seriously, it was fine I guess. Agreed that it looked fucking amazing in theaters.
Name a main character. Not the actor, the character.
If you can, you’ll be the first person who has been able to that I have asked. (Though I have never asked online.)
You’ve asked the wrong guy. All I know is it’s Kevin Costner.
So close, if only you had said Mary McDonnell.
John Smith?
I knew them (Sam & Zoe’s characters), but I watched the sequel only last year. I probably couldn’t have told you had you asked me in 2022.
I don’t remember any other character names from either movie.
Jake from State Farm?
Same. I liked the movies for what they are: expensive, cinematic special-effects thrill rides with pretty much the loosest stories.
The second one looked absolutely gorgeous in theaters.
I appreciate this take
The key is to watch it in 3D… on acid. The dialogue and characters are hilarious and the world is beautiful.
James Cameron’s Titanic. It’s marketed as a romantic film, but the moment you start looking at other aspects of the movie, it just seems stupid. The antagonist is so cartoonishly evil, it’s a wonder they didn’t give him a mustache to twirl.
And then there’s the ending. Oh dear lord, the ending. Spoiler warning and all that: at the end of the movie, The Titanic s(t)inks and the passengers try to get to safety. Rose finds a floating door or something to stay afloat and finds Jack swimming in the freezing ocean. Then Jack makes the most non-sensical decision in the entire movie: he sacrifices his own life for no good reason. The plot frames it as a necessary sacrifice, but it totally IS unnecessary, because there was enough room on the stupid door for two people. And then we flash forward to the present, where Rose is old, but still has that gem she wore throughout the movie… and then she tosses it into the ocean. WHY.
Basically the plot boils down to: two young people have a fling on a boat and then the boat sinks. It absolutely did NOT deserve all those academy awards it got that year.
People are STILL bringing up the “there’s enough room” arguments?
The movie LITERALLY shows you why it doesn’t work. At first they both try to climb on it, but they’re too heavy and the stupid thing capsizes. Only then is Jack like “You go take it, Imma good”
Also, Mythbusters tried it and got the same results. 2 people to heavy, 1 ok.
No, the Mythbusters actually proved the door could support two people. At the end James Cameron himself basically throws his hands up, concedes and makes some comment about “whatever, if the script says Jack has to die, Jack is dying.” Rewatch the edpisode if ya don’t believe me
Yes, after the took off their lifebelts and tied them under the door for adden buoyancy.
I think two people, already stressed to their teeth, now also suffering from hypothermia can be forgiven for not having the same presence of mind in that situation
Guess i forgot about that detail, so thanks for the correction. The end results are the same either way though. The door can float 2 but the script says jack has to die, rendering the entire argument pretty moot. James Cameron’s comment was basically “science be dammed, Jack’s drowning.”
I’m sure if Cameron realized that the door of that size, with two life jackets underneath could support two people, he would have written the door to be smaller. It’s ok not to like the film, but this is just CinemaSins level pedantic.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie (and have no desire to see it again) and I don’t remember the scene as clearly, so that’s on me. Throwing away the gem was still colossaly stupid, though.
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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
Maybe you had to have been in the Hollywood scene at the time to understand the humor, but I was bored out of my mind the whole time and wondered whether he’s making fun of the audience and seeing if he can get away with a movie without a real storyline if he just includes his signature foot shots, long conversations about nothing and a massacre at the end.I think the problem was that half of the movie was a memorial to the victims of the Charles Manson murders and the other half of the movie was about Brad Pitt and DiCaprio, and the two stories had absolutely zero synergy.
just includes his signature foot shots
To be fair, those foot shots are … as good as foot shots can be, at least.
Sigh.
That was the last movie I saw in theaters until two weeks ago when I saw Furiosa.
I enjoyed Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Furiosa was better, though.
I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
Are you including Jackie Brown in this assessment? Because that’s the one Tarantino film I’d never return to. Bored the shit out of me.
I can see how Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wouldn’t do it for a lot of people. The storyline was pretty bloody thin.
From memory, my wife and I had only just recently watched the Aquarius TV series (a few years after it was made) followed by Mindhunter (we were on a true crime kick back then), so the intersection with the Manson murders kept us hooked. Also, Tarantino using the same Aussie actor from Mindhunter to reprise the role of Manson felt like a really cool Easter egg.
But, that’s the thing about Tarantino - he’s always going to be polarizing. You either love or hate a given piece of his work, I guess.
I disagree entirely. Jackie Brown is actually my favorite Tarantino film.
Tasteful and interesting.
See? That just illustrates my point perfectly. I reckon Tarantino intentionally sets out to put people firmly on either side of the love/hate fence, with each film.
It was hugely freeing for me to realize this. I didn’t really care for Death Proof and I absolutely hated Inglorious Bastards. My friends thought I was crazy. After loving Kill Bill and everything I had seen before it, I thought Tarantino had just gotten too far up his own ass. Then Django came out and was just fun and cathartic and I realized I just needed to take each project as it came
Damn, Jackie Brown is great
Yeah Jackie Brown is my least favourite Tarantino film by a mile.
damn i loved jackie brown i thought it was fantastic. and i also loved once upon a time in hollywood
I never finished it j just got bored
Black Panther.
It had so much hype in the media, i was so excited to watch it. It turned out to be rather boring and forgettable.
I’m reliably informed there are people who like Michael Bay’s Transformers movies. The most interesting part of the entire series to me was watching a Camaro get into a literal fist fight with a Mustang. Otherwise my memories of the movie were having eye rollingly childish catch phrases boomed down at me, or visuals that are basically just technicolor television snow.
Transformers for me was pretty much Megan Fox and nothing else.
No like is the wrong word. I love them. Don’t know why thou, they are fucking stupid.
I mean its clearly an ad for the military where cars beat up cars. Buuuut Its hilariously epic and very comforting in its shallowness. Normally I am more of a weird indie movie guy. But every time optimus calls out all autobots in the end I cry.I like them because they’re stupid. I do have a problem seeing irony where there is none though.
crash won an oscar for best picture and it was complete and utter garbage
Barbie.
I like Margot Robbie. I like Ryan Gosling. I like fun movies. But idk, it just didn’t really appeal to me, and the plot felt predictable. I don’t regret watching it necessarily, but I also have no interest in watching it again.
:(
I like Margot Robbie.
:)
but I also have no interest in watching it again.
:(
Watch me several times now and then I’ll watch you several times back
You’re a great dude, Margot Robbie.
That’s esteemed Academy Award nominated great dude Margot Robbie to you!
(Dude is gender neutral now)
Barbie movie Predictable
Were you expecting a post-modern masterpiece?
No, but with all of the hype and excitement around it, I thought there was something extra-special about this movie. Like an interesting/unexpected story.
it was unexpected for a Barbie movie
I’m with halfeatenpotato here. I went into it expecting something that had spawned this whole Barbieheimer thing, and was a billion-Plus-dollar movie that excited the nation for a while.
That’s not what I saw. It was hot garbage. It wasn’t even fun.
You fell for the marketing
Yes I did.
I love the idea, to change the gender and show how it would look if women was the dominant sex
I don’t think what they made was plausible. I know, it’s barbie, but I don’t find this version of “woman power” plausible without it changing the gender expressions. Like, how masculinity and being formed by masculinity being an expression of dominans, and therefore changes how men dress, behave and express themselves would change a lot Also, this is not a matriarchy, it is a patriarchy but where the women have the power. I’ve read several books where they flip the sexes, and I’ve found the concept interesting because it points out how much of our society is formed by the patriarchy, for all genders, which makes a lot of fun and interesting situations
I love the idea, to change the gender and show how it would look if women was the dominant sex
Watch the movie “I Am Not an Easy Man.”
I thought it was fun and I get why it’s been so exceedingly popular but they tried a little too hard to make the concept of Barbie and the concept of womanhood out to be the same thing. For a lot of people that really worked and I think that’s made it harder to criticize.
There are some really top tier moments though which made it easier to forget and forgive all the boring bits.
I watched this one as a bit of a joke really, kind of left going what the fuck? I usually like it when a movie leaves me feeling like that, but I don’t know it was a bit weird and silly. Would the world magically be better if it were only women running things? Unlikely, all humans are humans there are women on both sides of the political spectrum. Just like men you can’t say that women feel a certain way. I don’t know it was just a bit weird that’s all.
I wanna be clear all of the weird, sexist and political responses aren’t something I support. At the end of the day though is was just an ad for a doll which apparently is responsible for the achievements and ambitions of women in the latter half of the 20th Century. I’m not a woman so I don’t really know
I was so confused about the message… Ken went full patriarchy, but then demonstrated that it wasn’t really that bad (also, no horses). So compared to barbieland the real world is absolutely paradise. Then they flip the full-on matriarchal barbieland to complete patriarchy, find that the women don’t like that, do a bit of gender war and go mostly matriarchy because reasons. And than a bitter remark that women have it hard in the real world so men will have it hard in barbieland. It’s all over the place.
The weird pacing, jokes that fall flat and at one point goes all 3 stooges just left me feeling… Empty, afterwards. All that hype, all the people rooting for and against it, people complaining that it didn’t win all the awards… I thought it was a vapid, low quality summer movie.
At the end of the day it was just an ad for a doll, the “feminism” stuff they did was moreso to attract the twitter blue checks, so that it would be a culture war crime to dissent on it
I think it confronted some issues that many of us have been aware of for a long time in a somewhat superficial way. I also think that it brought some conversations into the mainstream that might not have happened otherwise. So I liked it.
The constant attack towards men ruined that movie, it wasn’t even a clever attack just dumb feminism
The Barbie movie isn’t attacking men, it just lampoons society using the Barbies and Kens as silly caricatures.
Maybe it has a slight vapid girl power message but the real message is “hey remember this Barbie doll? Give us money”
While I do agree that it, at times, definitely stepped into ‘dumb femminism’ as you put it. I also acknowledge that it was a movie and to do a discussion on feminism justice it would require a lot more than 2 hours. So a lot got simplified, sometimes too much. I disagree with you that it was a constant attack towards men. The movie went wayyyyy out of its way to make it clear they were attacking patriarchal systems, not men in general. That’s Ken’s whole arc, he’s suffering under patriarchy too. He just also gets the benefits of the patruarchy while he’s suffering. If I had any criticism about the film it was how much it tried to avoid criticizing capitalism and corporate culture’s role.
Nah I’m sorry but it was an aimed attack. The speech about what society expects from a woman is such bullshit. As a man that is very old school I don’t need woman to look great for me but not enough for other men, or being delicate, or earning less and all that stupidity. The men were the villain in the movie and the butt of the joke…
And the Ken character was fine. Only at the very end was almost shoehorned the “oh actually the system is the problem” and wtf didn’t he got Barbie at the end, she even wanted him at first. Now that he was a better person or whatever why they went separate ways? There’s no satisfactory ending for neither of the characters.
Thank you for projecting your experience as an individual man, on the experience of all women re what society expects of them.
Fucking Bravo.
Sorry to break it to you, but everyone projects their own experience. A man’s experience is just as valid, even if you disagree with it.
I’m using me as an example, especially since I’m not a gen Z, but do you really think the average dude feels much different about women? Cmon
Wow fuckin’ wooosh with you and that one hey? Only a very weak beta would feel even remotely attacked by that movie. Good luck Chuck!
Interstellar: just found it kind of ridiculous, outlandish, in no way believable or connected to anything even theoretically within reality. Pseudo-serious science fiction. Big budget blah.
Inception: I love Nolan but that was big swing and a miss for me. Went in excited, came out wondering where the fuss was all about.
I need to leave this thread. Interstellar is my favorite movie of all time.
Shitting on Inception and Interstellar at the same time?
My right hand curls into a fist instinctively. My left hand covers it and pats it gently.
No… I must choose peace.
I’m sorry, it just wasn’t for me. A lot of people agree with you!
I’ll outright say it. Other than The Prestige and the later Batman movies, Nolan movies have been very disappointing to me. They’re not clever, they’re pretentious. If you ever saw that Netflix movie where the woman dated Keanu Reaves, the part where Keanu asks the chef for a meal the plays with the concept of time is every Christopher Nolan movie in a nutshell. Also, the action sequences in Batman Begins were unnecessarily choppy, and the idea that it was somehow how a bat would see them is just silly.
Huh. Maybe I DON’T love Nolan.
Had to go look up that scene. Thank you. Thank you so much for directing me to the scene.
I do not want to see the movie, but my life is richer for having seen that scene.
“My daughter Murph. I keep gettin’ older. She stays the same age.”
Also, I love how he had a son who just wanted to be a farmer and that meant that Matthew McConaughey’s character was justified in being totally emotionally disinterested in him, compared to his genius daughter. Seriously, at a certain point I think Nolan forgot he wrote this guy with two kids. His entire character was defined by his relationship with his daughter. Why even give him a son in the first place?
The stories in both were somewhat disjointed and as with most sci-fi, requires some level of suspension of disbelief.
Nowadays, storytelling and plot takes a big backseat to action and explosions…😔
I liked both Interstellar and Inception. I hated Tenet - on how the story was told and the inaudible sound (eye roll).
