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    nobody ever went to mcdonald’s because it’s “good” but because it was cheap and fast

    now it’s none of those 3 things. no reason to go there at all. that applies to most other fast food shit too.

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        it was a franchise choice for that community. not to defend mcdonalds, but this happens, just not usually by genocidal groups.

        “In regard to the news that McDonald’s in Israel was donating meals. We affirm that it was an individual decision on their part,” McDonald’s franchise in Saudi Arabia said in a statement. “Neither global McDonald’s nor us nor any other country had a role or relationship with that decision, neither directly nor indirectly.”

        McDonald’s is a global chain but its franchises are often owned locally and operate autonomously.

        McDonald’s Corp declined to comment but a source close to the company in the U.S. said the Israel franchise was an independent business that licensed McDonald’s brand. The source said it’s not unusual for franchisees to engage with their local communities when they are in need.

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          I recommend eating McDonald’s every day to support your beloved genocidal friends. The more you eat McDonald’s, the better for the IOF. They really need your support in eating as much McDonald’s as you can!

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      Only reason to go there now is because they’ve tricked my kids into being addicted to it.

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      When big mac is made right, and the ingredients haven’t been sitting around all day, it’s pretty dang good. Even their basic hamburgers.

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        Trusting that the underpaid and overworked employee is going to deliver a “pretty good” burger from a fast food joint isn’t a gamble many people are willing to make anymore. And I don’t blame those employees at all.

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        Have you ever had a cheeseburger at a real restaurant in your life? This is a serious question.

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          Depends where you are from. Food standards are higher in Europe, McDonalds can’t use cardboard for their burgers. Has to be actual beef.

          McDonalds isn’t as hated in the UK or Europe as it is in America.

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            I’m from Europe, and this doesn’t match my experience. McDonald’s is bottom tier fast food. Probably KFC is worse, but that’s about it.

            In general, to me it always seemed like Americans value fast food and chain restaurants way higher than Europeans.

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              I think there’s some wiggle room on “bottom tier,” but yeah, it’s down there somewhere. I dont think KFC is worse, not in my experience. but regardless of this, the meat is real in the UK (at least) and across Europe (at most).

              Your individual tastes are subjective. I was arguing that the quality difference of a mcdonalds burger and a restaurant burger is not as big a chasm as OP made out. I’ve worked in plenty of restaurants, and many buy their burgers from the same suppliers that fast food places buy from. It’s the same meat in a different setting. In fact, I used to order food for a whitbread chain restaurant and a greene king chain restaurant, and a lot of it came from the same manufacturers. But people would swear by the quality of the more upmarket whitbread restaurant over the cheaper greene king one.

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    I won’t go back until hash browns are 2 for $1.

    Fuck outta here with this $2.00 hash brown bullshit.

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      You can get a pack of frozen hash browns for cheaper than that. Saves time, money, and tastier imo.

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        Yep fuck that.

        2 for $1.

        And egg McMuffins and sausage muffins should be <$3.00.

        And the sausage burritos should be 2 for $1.

        McDonald’s trying to act like they’re a restaurant and not a fucking logistics company. The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

        Any company that is known by all doesn’t do what the average person thinks they do.

        McDonalds? Logistics company

        CocaCola? Logistics company

        Ups? Logistics company

        Starbucks? Logistics company

        Miller/Coors? Logistics company

        Shaw’s? Logistics company

        W.B mason? Logistics company

        Exxon Mobile? Logistics company

        Amazon? Logistics company

        The price of sugar doesn’t affect Coca-Cola. The price of wheat doesn’t affect millercoors. The price of lumber doesn’t affect wb mason. The price of gasoline doesn’t affect ups. The price of coffee doesn’t affect Starbucks. The price of beef, potatoes, and dairy doesn’t affect McDonald’s. The price of oil (barely) doesn’t affect Exxon Mobile.

        These are the fucks that pull the levers. Not the farmers. Not the lumberjacks. Not the oil refiners.

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          The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

          McDonald’s certainly has enormous buying power. I do imagine widespread drought or something would impact their bottom line by some pennies if it were severe enough. Anyway, I read:

          The Dakota Russet is one of eight varieties accepted [by McDonald’s] in North America. The most recent additions to the McDonald’s North American varieties were in 2016.

          Don’t see that one online but other varieties appear popular.

          Now, enjoy

          PROCESS FOR PREPARING FROZEN FRENCH FRY POTATO SEGMENTS

          (Other patents: methods of preparing / cooking food; packaging; equipment used in cooking food.)

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        $2.79, before taxes. Don’t forget these are US companies. And any charges outside the US have likely already been taxed locally, before international tax was applied.

        Don’t ever assume the US gov is paying you fairly. Taxes are only an excuse for them to make even more money by manipulating the rules.

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      $2.50 Cones were my breaking point. The tourist trap general store next to me does a decent waffle cone for $4.

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      Hole-in-the-wall ethnic food shops/take out are the way. If you want 'murican fast food, you gotta break the bank… but find a little family owned taqueria that does their shit right and you can stuff your face with the best tacos you’ve ever eaten for like $3. Highly dependent on your local options ofc, so keep an eye out.

      In my experience, the sketchier the restaurant looks, the better the food is.

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          And if it’s a front the food might still be awesome because it’s some rando doing their home cooking to cosplay as a restaurant worker

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          Does this pretty much imply that if it looks shady and stays in business, but the food is shite, then then business is a front for money laundering or other criminal activities? Because there is this absolutely trash Mexican place near where I live and it’s always dead (no business) and the food is suspiciously bad like “the refried beans are dry and look like they’ve been sitting out for days” kind of bad. And this place has been “in business” for like 15 years.

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            It could also be a hobby business to keep someone’s spouse/family busy and out of the house.

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            There’s a Bosnian place right next to an amazing Mexican place we like to go to. The Bosnian place always has people coming and going, but never staying for more than 5 minutes, and never walking out with food in hand. I’m pretty sure it’s a front.

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            Yes. Otherwise there wouldn’t be any point in keeping it open.

            Restaurants have notoriously thin margins, so to stay in business 15 years, something shady is happening most likely.

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        I was amazed to find out the chicken place I order from looked nice (for a sketchy hole in the wall ethnic food place). $30 CAD for two or three days worth of INCREDIBLY good chicken and fries

        Like seriously, it was dying mall food court sketchy when I expected, “…You killed the health inspector with a pan to the head didn’t you?” sketchy

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        In Louisiana some of the best fried chicken and other Cajun food is in gas stations. Not even joking. It’s usually small towns, but there are some around NOLA and other cities, too.

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          Best fried chiicken i ever had was at a gas station in the middle of nowhere off ther interstate in Mississippi.

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            One of my best fried chicken experiences was a $5 fried chicken buffet somewhere in rural Kentucky near Lincoln’s birth home.

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          Those breaded skewers with chicken/pickle/onion/potato you can get at roadside stations down in the MS delta area are absolutely incredible and I love them. Any time I’m passing through there I have to find some.

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          What is Dick’s charging these days? My local equivalent burger joint has a double with fries for just over $8. Easily the best I can do around here.

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            $8.10. Their advertised base wage ($21/hr) must be lower than their actual base wage. I saw a posted at location janitorial position with a $23/hr start.

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            $5.30 for a deluxe, $2.80 for fries.

            Dick’s and a taco truck in the same area ($2.50/taco) are my go to cheap but delicious lunch options.

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        I wish we had those around here. Even the hole-in-the wall Indian places start their plates at like $12. It’s absurd.

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        You absolutely can get great American food from a hole in the wall. Also, I’m not sure why you had to say ‘murican as if our food has something wrong with it. Just a weird flex. I’m lucky to live in a city with a plethora of food trucks all around and you can get pretty much any kinda cuisine for cheaper than fast food joints.

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      Cheap food is still out there, but it’s not corporate food.

      Corporations put profit above all, which is anathema to how every successful chain became successful. Whatever mechanism they had to stresamline production, negotiate with vendors, push addition products (would you like fries with that?), their primary goal was always consistency and value. You know what to expect, and it’s worth the money.

      You’ll find that now in local diners, in food trucks, in cafes, and in small restaurants where they value good food over profit, but you won’t find it at most chain restaurants.

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        Food trucks are hit or miss. The food can be OK but the ones here tend to be very overpriced for the quality.

        Someone else mentioned ethnic places which have become my go to for good, cheap food. There’s a gyro place near me where you can get a gyro and fries for like $7. It takes 5 minutes and the food is fresh.

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          BBQ trucks tend to be way overpriced in my experience. But that may be biased because I make damn good BBQ. I have friends that ask me to make food for their birthday parties, diaper parties, bachelor parties etc. paying $12-15 for a sloppy mess of a pulled pork sandwich with no taste other than the sauce is absolutely unacceptable. That being said, I’m far enough away from any BBQ “hub” that nobody here knows what good BBQ is.

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      Taco Bell still has $1.25 bean and rice burritos where I live. It’s like 400 calories so it’s a pretty good deal.

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        Not here! The burritos at Taco Bell here are outrageous. A single bean burrito is 4.50CAD. The 7-layer? 8 BUCKS. The Grilled Cheesy? Fuck you, over ten dollars for a single burrito. A burrito that isn’t heated right, has all the ingredients separated into disgusting pockets of single ingredient, and makes you feel terrible after eating them.

        And mind you, these aren’t even combos. This is just one burrito.

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          UK Taco Bell is somehow worse.

          They seem to be trying to trade on the novelty/name, because there is no chance I’m paying £8 for a taco the size of a hamburger.

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          They aren’t even cheap anymore, damn near $2+ basic bitch tacos. I can go elsewhere and get a street taco (with multiple meat options) for a buck that’s actually flavorful and warmer than room-temp, and that’s in fucking Ohio

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      I assume you are North American, look for small ethnic food shops. You will find better food at a cheaper price.

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    Notice they are too embarrassed to post their prices online. To see the price, you have to put the item in the cart then use some bs 3rd party app. WTF McDs?

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      “If you have to ask the price, then you can’t afford it” happening in a McDonald’s, while people are out here financing a pizza from Dominos. It’s like we lost the Cold War.

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        That’s too insanely dystopian for anybody in sci-fi to have predicted it.

        The closest would be Demolition Man having Taco Bell (or Pizza Hut) as fancy dining. But they imagined the chain upping its game when it gained monopoly. How naive.

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        Warning! This definitely reads like a taco bell add but I just really appreciate taco bell for having food for vegans and not price gouging like the rest did.

        Hard disagree, if you learn what to order and how to customize your food.

        Fat ass burritos for 3.50 are not a bad deal imo, and I regularly make my own burritos at home.

        They have some trap items to avoid for sure, but the staples are still cheap. Hard shell and soft shell, rice and bean burritos, nacho fries are sort of in the middle price wise, etc.

        They are the easiest place for me to make a vegan order from hands down, they actually label shit on their order tablets. They have some freebies that are totally worth it some people never find out about because they order at the speaker exclusively. Fresco replaces cheese and dairy with a pico de gallo, you can toast most regular burritos, and even though its extra you can add nearly anything into anything for super cheap.

        Im actually not sure if I’m scamming them somehow because choosing their cheapest items and modifying is always cheaper than buying the same thing but premade. Not in any rush to ask about it either.

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          No, they absolutely price gouge. A 7-layer burrito here is 8 bucks before tax, just the burrito alone. They don’t have anything that’s actually cheap here in Canada, and I can get much better for the same price. Their “vegan” options here are also basically just their regular burritos with beans, and are just as ridiculously overpriced. It’s bottom-tier garbage food at way-too-high prices for what you get.

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    Honestly, I’m amazed people still go there to eat. The food was never really good, but at least it used to be fast and cheap. But these days, it’s neither anymore. McDonald’s is now more expensive than the gourmet burger places in my city; that feels insane.

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      It always takes a year or two for the business to really feel it. First, it takes consumers awhile to visit and realize the prices are so high. Most people aren’t going to McDonald’s every week. And sometimes it takes a few visits before they really notice the sting.

      Eventually, the place just gets a reputation for being pricey, and people slowly stop going. But it’s a frog in a boiling pot thing, and of course the executives search for any other reason besides their own pricing decisions from 18 months ago.

      Have you ever noticed in those surveys they always ask “what can we do better?” And the answers usually don’t include “be cheaper”.

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        you also have to consider the point of being “the only option”. I live in a major city and here there’s a central transit hub downtown, very large, trains and buses and subways coming in and out. The place has a decently sized food court, opens at 5am and that’s when the first batch of morning commuters start coming in. So naturally they want their coffee and breakfast. Out of ALL the food options there’s only ONE place that’s open. McDonald’s. So the line ups in the morning are long because it’s the ONLY place to get a coffee and a sandwich.

        At night the station closes at 230am. Most of the food places close around 10pm. The station is next door to a major sports/events arena. So every now and again you have people in the station late at night waiting for trains and buses to take them home after a sporting event or concert. What’s the only place that’s still open at that time of night? McDonald’s.

        for those two periods of time the place does well. during the day when other, cheaper, options are open next to them they don’t, it’s dead. there’s no lineups and the staff are twiddling their thumbs. But for those two periods in the day when they’re the only option in the area? they kill it.

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    Oh wow… Increased prices resulted in people going else where… Who would have seen that coming 🤔

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      I mean, you’re half right. Yeah, it’s gotten expensive, but it’s now expensive for McDonald’s-quality food. It’s not the worst of the worst, but you can easily find better quality food cheaper.

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    the only fast food that didnt go stupid during covid in my area … quality, price or service… seemed to be five guys

    i think its the simple menu plus it was already quite expensive, and so i assume they are paying a fair wage to keep good people.

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          Yeah but you put a “please stop reading now” gap before your first line, and the one where you said they were already expensive.

          I know I’m being a bit tongue in cheek, but I had to reply because I literally did the same thing your replier did. I read your first line, and my immediate thought was “wait, aren’t they already expensive?” And I felt compelled to stop reading and immediately see if any replies confirmed that. And then I saw YOUR reply saying you already said they were expensive, and I had to go back to read the second half of your comment.

          So yeah, not really my proudest moment, or a good sign for how the Internet is affecting attention spans… But I think that’s what happened.

          (If I can make ANY defence for myself and your replier, it’s that your first sentence initially says five guys didn’t give in to gouging like other joints, which might imply that five guys has lower prices than the restaurants that raised their prices. So maybe we stopped reading because we thought we knew where you were heading.)

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      5 guys is insane where I live. $45 for 1 double hamburger, med drink, 1 kids hamburger, med drink and a med fry to share. I stopped going to 5 guys after that one a few months ago.

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      I would go to five guys if one of them would put in a drive thru. Drive thru food and ambiance but as a sit down restaurant? Why?

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          A drive-thru would be a disaster, their average turnaround time on orders is like five plus minutes drive-thrus need to be able to be pushed out in generally under 2 minutes.

          I feel like people forget that they don’t pre-cook their burgers. Drive-thru’s only work because a lot of the food is pre-made based on popularity and just sits under a warmer

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            culvers isn’t quick service either, but they do it.

            you order, pay, and if there’s a line behind you (there always is), you get a number, pull ahead and park. they bring it out.

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              I feel like that’s stretching the definition of drive-thru. I guess you still don’t need to get out of your car but it feels like curbside delivery with extra steps

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                Also, Culver’s has a tendency to turn their burger patties into weapons by overcooking them. If they make them right, they’re amazing. If they burn them, they’re worth more as throwing stars than as food.

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            they don’t pre-cook their burgers

            this is a great point… But… we are post-covid. i would bet a non-insignificant percent of their orders are now ‘pre-ordered’ unlike before

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    Scrolled through for a while and didn’t see anyone complaining about ditching coupons for their app bullshit. I’m not using an app for fast food

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      But how else are they going to complete their digital transformation and leverage their industry-leading customer volume to deliver high-quality consumer data and drive growth for shareholders? Why don’t you care about the shareholders?!

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      Eh, I’m okay with an app as long as it’s good.

      The McDonald’s app is not good. At all. In the slightest. It won’t even let me login 99% of the time.

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        I think they did something to throttle user access. I was using it once 3-4 times a week. Either just the Friday fries or a drink for $1. Now I can’t log in anymore. Seems to me like they wanted to stop people from using it.

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        it’s literally one of the worst experiences of any app. it’s SLOW as fuck, barely responds when you touch stuff, took weeks to get logged back in like you said you had issues with. some of the deals are ok, you can get chicken sandwich combo sometimes for like $6, but that’s about it. their chicken sands aren’t bad.

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        Here’s the problem. How to get the average person to think far enough into the future to understand why the data collection is almost always a bad thing for them.

        In most cases it will save you in the long run to avoid the app discounts than to use them.

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      I’m currently waffling on whether or not to use my bank account info with the app for a small gas station chain. It would get me a $0.10 discount per gallon, but I’d have to use the app at the pump. I get that they’d save fees with credit card processors so that’s why they’re offering it, but using a credit card is so much less effort and doesn’t require me to keep yet another app on my phone.

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        I find with a lot of apps like that they’re glorified web browsers, which means that most of the time you can just use their mobile site. One less app collecting data, draining battery etc

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          I still get cheap coffee there. The other day, the drive through person asked if I have installed the app yet. I awkwardly replied “no”. It was a hard push.

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        Get a Costco membership then get gas at Costco with the Costco Visa. Sure, they know everything about you, but at least it’s a single company and you’re not giving them direct access to your actual bank account.

        I drove all the way from Chicagoland to around Pensacola and back, only got gas at Costcos along the way. Saved probably $20 just in price difference between Costco and other nearby stations, while also earning 4% back on the Visa.

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    When fast food is as much or more than grocery store sushi, fuck it, I’ll park the car and go grab some fish.

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    Last month, the head of its US operations formally responded to the complaints with an open letter to customers, saying social media was painting an inaccurate picture. He said the average price of a Big Mac in the US, which is now $5.29 (£4.11), was up 21% since 2019 - roughly in line with the pace of inflation - and many items had risen by less.

    Sure, place the blame on anyone but themselves.

    $5.29 is ridiculous for a Big Mac, which is super tiny.

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      Especially because that’s just the sandwich, not a side and a drink. A combo meal is like 10.15$

      I’m sorry but the quality of the food does not justify 10 dollars.

      For comparison, I remember in Berlin not even 5 years ago I got a currywurst with fries and a drink for 3.60 € (about 3.90$), and in London I got an absolute mound of fish and chips with peas for like 6.50 £ (about 8$). Both of these I got as much or way more food than a Big Mac combo and they were much better quality.

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        I won’t defend McDonald’s, but you’ll struggle to get fish for under £7-8 now, and the chips are £2-3.

        In the south, at least.

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      I think you hit the nail on the head there. Even if they were to lower the prices, they’ll just make the fucking burgers even smaller.

      Does anyone remember how much bigger the Big Mac was in the 90’s? Shrinkflation is everywhere.

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    I think we have two classes of “fast food” now. The higher class places like Five Guys, Poke Bros, Panera are going to cost you more, and you’re not going to go there every day (or even every week), but they’re pretty damned good.

    The OG fast food places - McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s, Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr., Arby’s, Taco Bell - they’re just not good enough to command the higher prices that the new class of fast food can. Not to mention that the quality of all of those chains has declined dramatically in the last decade. Obvious drop in quality plus increase in price, people notice that.

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      … They have always been. There is fast food and fast casual.

      Fast food would love to be fast casual, they sell the idea to seem like fancy fast food. Like McDonald’s having table service through the kiosk, etc.

      But this isnt new. It’s literally the business plan of the places you mentioned to not be fast food.

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      Except you can get a Duo meal for $7 at Panera that’s soup sandwhich and chips and that’s 3$ cheaper than McDonald’s

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        I’ve never met an Panera that has everything in stock, so you’re going to be making a second or third line choice. One of your items is guaranteed to be out. Regular sandwiches, god knows why, are $14.

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          I used to love Panera back in high school, which was early 2000’s. As someone who hung out with friends at a movie theater on weekends it was the best place to eat at in the same strip mall. I still remember getting sandwiches for $4 or $5 at the time. If I was in high school today there is no way I could eat there, and if I could I also couldn’t justify spending that much. I feel like they are scrambling as well, changing a lot, making products worse, adding items nobody wants, just trying to hit big with one of them. My wife really wanted to try the new caprese sandwich they have, we were dying when she got it and all you saw was bread… when she opened it up there was like 1 slice of tomato and 1 slice of mozzarella and it was the saddest sandwich I’ve ever seen. I thought it was hilarious until I realized we paid over $10 for that joke…

          Sharing the pic so everyone else can join in on the laugh. Bad sandwich

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            My biggest gripe with them is they always add one hipster element that totally ruins the sandwich. Oh you want a high end grilled cheese? How about we put a blackberry reduction in that bitch? Grilled chicken sandwich? Why not try one with our new habanero peach marmalade?

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        Lol no you can’t. I didn’t believe you, so I checked. $11.79, and that’s for mostly cheaper options of the pick 2 (broccoli cheddar + frontega chicken). And I live in Missouri, where shit’s cheap.

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          Sorry, they are called Duets, not duos. They still come with apple/bread/chips. You cant sub anything out, but it’s still a good portion for healthier fast food option.

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              They must have gone up in the past few months. It was 6.99 last I got them I thought. Oh well! Still cheaper than a big mac or whopper

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                Last time I tried to get fast food was like 2 or 3 months ago. I went to Taco Bell, saw that the beefy 5 layer burrito was like $4.50, and just left the drive through. Fuck all that

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                  Taco Bell is my go to - I am vegetarian so my opinions are slim. But for $7 I can’t get a crunch wrap with black beans, a cheesey bean and rice burrito, and a fiesta potato and a drink with thier app combo. Then after every other meal (like every to weeks) I get a bonus something. So. Yeah, I only mess with the build your own cravings box… 9 dollars for 3 tacos and a drink is ridiculous.

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    I’m so glad that I live in a big city, where there are hundreds of awesome small burger joints that sell better quality burgers at a much lower price.

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    The bigger reason I don’t go to McDonald’s is because of the self serve kiosks they’ve forced on us instead of paying people to run the registers.

    Price is still a reason though, so I’m glad they are at least considering that as well.

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      i don’t get why people complain about this – i’d so so much rather type my order in myself, see what’s in everything, make modifications easily, etc without having to talk to someone. get those workers on the line and help ease the load on the kitchen

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        They didn’t “get those workers on the line” though. They fired them. Fuck McDonalds, and FUCK ANY BUSINESS that forces these fucking things on us. I’m not there to work, I’m there to order food and eat. If you can’t be bothered to take my order, I can’t be bothered to drop a fucking dime on your business.

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          They weren’t paying them a living wage in the first place let them replace it with screens

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          I can guarantee you nobody got fired for these machines, the turnover is already so fucking high there that it’s not even needed. When I worked at MCD I lasted an entire year and excluding the managers I was probably in the top 3-4 in terms of “seniority”

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          The McDonalds near me have people on tills as well as the self order machines. And you say they fired them. Can you prove that?

          To be clear. I dont think you are wrong, I have no idea, and I am genuinely curious and want to know if that happened. since you claimed it with such conviction, I assume you can give a reference or point me in the direction of the search terms I could use to find a source myself?

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            I’m saying that the 4 McDonalds in my town don’t have front-line workers that take orders, save for the drive thru. All they have are the kiosks. Fuck that, and fuck them.

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        Because I go there once in a blue moon and it’s easier for the guy doing it 1000x/day to push in my order than me finding it on a big dumb Kiosk menu.

        I won’t frequent places that force me to use a kiosk.

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          Decision paralysis.

          I don’t know the menu, seeing all the things flash by and not know what’s in them is my reason, but in the 3 years I only been there 2 or 3 times for ice cream or coffee. But the logic applies for all other places.

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        Maybe i am just too old and go to McDonald’s too infrequently, but i can never figure out how to get my order done properly on the kiosks. Try ordering a McGriddle combo with a Carmel latte. There’s no visible option for that. Unless you ppan on doing a basic order, the kiosks suck

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      Why would you want people to take orders? It’s not some amazing work that is satisfying. We should be glad these jobs are going away